whitestripes Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Right. This is a gem for the rep factories: unlike the PO, Breitlings, and HBBs, this Omega case is used throughout the seamaster line. Change the bracelet (Bond or Speedy, both have been repped already), the dial (all have been made), bezel insert (all have been made) and caseback (again, all of them are out there), and you have like 6 SUPERREPS. The case has ALWAYS been the let down, the He valve and crownguards, in particular. Is this going to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollux1 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Someone with the ability to have the case made could make a fortune, think of how many wish they could buy the closed factory smp. Eurotimez I hope you can get this up and running! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars08 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Some cheaps SMP 007 reps. Take no notice of the dealer, I'm not asking anyone to buy... Yes, the He valve is wrong... but these cases are ALREADY being made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 The crownguards are nice and high, though they require a little bit of shaving to make it look like gen. With CGs, like haircuts, you can always shave a little off but you can never add more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4GTR Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 This is the Submariner of the #2 Swiss manufacturer in the game. The grocery income would be ridiculous for the supplier. If this rep was stamped out right, there is no question about 1000 pieces.. whatever.No one is taking ownership of this market as we speak. The case will fulfill all past, present, and future SMP models. This is a given. It's obvious that its going to be done, the question is who/when. SMP cannot be denied. It's been too long. Word is a new model is already in the works. Was told by collectors to "wait". Whats coming to press? Mvmts drying up and all... On a personal note, I couldn't wait. have an older SMP en route. Just like every single SMP buyer in the market right now. Will be interesting to see what comes of the current situation. Rest assured my piece will be reviewed upon arrival, but I dont expect any revelations. This market has been denied for way too long. I've waited for a decent SMP since my join date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I've also been told by one of the big dealers that this is in the works. I'm getting a 3717 to hold me over til that happens. (can't stand reps with horrible inaccuracies...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyVader Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 If the dealers says this is in the works my best guess is they're redoing the SMP because they're replicating the new black one Omega launched. Which is good cos the only difference is the dial and bezel colour, which isn't a big deal, so they can do both blue and black versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 The case will fulfill all past, present, and future SMP models. This is a given. It's obvious that its going to be done, the question is who/when. SMP cannot be denied. It's been too long. This market has been denied for way too long. I couldn't help but notice this sounds almost like a Biblical prophecy. Just switch "Savior" for "SMP" or "SMP Model" and "humanity" for "this market." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars08 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Unfortunately even if there IS a new SMP rep "in the works", we can't be sure it will be any more authentic than the current bunch of reps. Or as affordable. Yet SOMEONE thought it made good business sense to build a new version of a classic Rolex rep which was very accurate out-of-the-box. We got the popular Noobmariner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2d4 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 (edited) Adding to the great list from r2d4 of gens which seem to use the same case... As mentioned earlier, it's odd that there are SMP "007" reps out there that have the CG size/shape about right. I'm sure I've seen them, but can't find a pic. Here's the gen instead. If one of these could be matched with the Silix-style dial, bezel insert, hands and bracelet... it would be more than good enough for me! Oh yeah, thanks Mars I forgot about ole elec blue. Good choice. Maybe I should sell me closed factory before the market gets saturated with a new 450.00 rep with an asian copy of an ETA 2824. Nah I think not. Edited August 15, 2008 by r2d4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I highly doubt this rep will sell for $450. At that price, they are all chronos or ceramic or something special. I bet it will be at the current prices, like $270 for ETA, $200 for CN ETA (or A21J) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2d4 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I highly doubt this rep will sell for $450. At that price, they are all chronos or ceramic or something special. I bet it will be at the current prices, like $270 for ETA, $200 for CN ETA (or A21J) I was exaggerating a bit. I am just real peeved that some rep makers and dealers are passing off eta stamped Asian copies for more than 150.00 bucks. In my diabolical Disney mind they should be worth under 150 for CN stamped ETA's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplehd Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 If its a true ETA movement and they have the correct HE valve, CGs, better crowns, correct dial, etc., I wouldn't be suprised if the price would be over $300 (just like the Steelfish). Im sure it would be called the Ultimate SMP (I thought I had the rights to call my SMP the Ultimate) and that it was made from gen comparision, 1:1 ratio, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBond Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 If its a true ETA movement and they have the correct HE valve, CGs, better crowns, correct dial, etc., I wouldn't be suprised if the price would be over $300 (just like the Steelfish). Im sure it would be called the Ultimate SMP (I thought I had the rights to call my SMP the Ultimate) and that it was made from gen comparision, 1:1 ratio, etc. I bought a SMP from Precious Time with a real ETA movement and correct HE valve... The price? 300$ You're right my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratedzeus Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I bought a SMP from Precious Time with a real ETA movement and correct HE valve... The price? 300$ You're right my friend Share some info about... Date of purchase... pictures....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r2d4 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Share some info about... Date of purchase... pictures....? Ditto on the information. Hey PZ, have'nt seen you forever. Hope all is well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfa437 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Heck if they got this one right I'd buy 3 or 4 right off the bat! It is one of the watches that got me looking for reps in the first place. I'd be willing to wager 350 USD+ range would still sell like mad for gen ETA verified and 200 for CN ETA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitestripes Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I'd definitely pickup the $200 CN ETA version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratedzeus Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Jbond is reading this, I am realllllyyy curious now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBond Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Share some info about... Date of purchase... pictures....? I bought the SMP 2 weeks ago. Precious Time is exactly like Eurotimez, the watch was verified (water resistance, real ETA, finitions, etc...). I will make a review soon. But I'm in holidays, please be patient (just one week ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars08 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I reckon the rep ETA SMP that JBond got from Precious Time is the same as the Silix one. Very, very nice, but weak CGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBond Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I reckon the rep ETA SMP that JBond got from Precious Time is the same as the Silix one. Very, very nice, but weak CGs. The difference between Silix's model and PT's model? More than 100$... Why? I have a REAL ETA verify (or change I don't know but it's a real). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mars08 Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I am getting a noobmariner delivered to my door for well under $US130. This is a new and popular version of a simple day/date watch. It is also supposed to be VERY close to the gen "out of the box". It's a replica of a classic, which has been done many times before. For less than $US130. It can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahn Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 Oh and the bezel pearl thing is a trade off. If you can get the bezel off without damaging it you could theoretically locate a new hole to align a flat type bezel spring or take off some wire if it has an internal tooth bezel. So the built in pearl is good and bad. You wont lose it that is for sure. I agree with R2D4 (usually do) I started a thread couple weeks ago about trying to get someone to produce a Ultimate SMP (USMP). Overwhelmingly wanted. The SMP draws more attention than any other rep for me, but then again, I don't do Rollies. I'd buy just the daggum case if I could get it! the He Valve is my biggest complaint. Let's be real: 1. the UPO has gained so much attention because it's highly "mod"-able 2. with that in mind - most everyone would swap to a Gen dial and hands anyways...right? 3. The bezel misaligned is a 10 min fix, pearl is another story...... Long story short - If you rep the SMP case like the Old Factory (correct He and crown guards), you got yourself a SOLID GOLD #1 Hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigpops Posted August 19, 2008 Report Share Posted August 19, 2008 (edited) I can't believe no one's mentioned my new favourite Seamaster which is begging to be repped: No, it's NOT the Bond LE. Take a closer look. Put simply, there are so many of the Seamaster range that could use a 1:1 case, it must make sense to make it Edited August 19, 2008 by bigpops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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