Guest Dr.TuB Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 WM9 v2 uses ETA 2678-2 Euromariner uses ETA 2836-2 which one is the correct one? and which one is better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Neither of them is "Correct". A Rolex 3135 would be correct... Both movements should be fine coming from either of those dealers and if you're really concerned, you can service them but I doubt you'd need with either of those sellers... I'd use the search feature for reviews or comparisons of the WM9 and the Euromariner or wait for BK, tribal, The Zigmeister, or one of the others who specializes in modding these pieces to comment, if they see this thread and choose to do so...As long as it's a 28.8k swiss eta movement, it fits the case, and it's in good working order there should be nothing to worry about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 2678 is a 7.75''' movement. Quite small actually, only 17mm diameter. I wonder if that is a typo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shundi Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 And how could I forget stilty in my listing above! My bad! I did google ETA 2678 and saw the size...I figure it's meant to be 28 - 36 or 24.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 And how could I forget stilty in my listing above! My bad! I did google ETA 2678 and saw the size...I figure it's meant to be 28 - 36 or 24.. 2824 is the WM9 indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 WM9 was normally 2836-2 i can't believe they put a Eta 2678-2 in it. Diameter of this movement is 7,75" = 17,2mm How will they manage to get the date at the right Position? I'm really confused about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefcook Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 my recently acquired WM9 still is a 2836-2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messenius Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 This is a BK's answer to movement question at RG "Yes, these come with 2678-2. 2678-2 is indeed a smaller movement used in ladies' watches. It's in no way an inferior movement. It has the same beat rate and power reserve. The plus is there's no chance for it to be a fake ETA 'cause none exists for 2678-2. wm9 will ensure the overall weight of the watch is as close to gen's by use of a proper weighted movement ring, no less than other versions with 2836-2. I'm also hoping 2678-2 has better, more even datewheel because I have seen enough 2836-2's that don't have every date square in the date window." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elprimerozen Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 He he.... i have at the moment a COPY eta 2678-2 in my hands....and i have it for almost a year, at my watch box with useless crap spare parts. Its a very very bad copy movement. I will post pics later... he he.. This movement came with a ladys datejust...and it was the worst movement ever!! ps:there will always be copy eta...as there are original Rolex 3135 movement copy exactly the same....i can post also pics from the copy 3135. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 ps:there will always be copy eta...as there are original Rolex 3135 movement copy exactly the same....i can post also pics from the copy 3135. I'd sure love to see the copy 3135, EPZ. I keep waiting for that one to start showing up, I'd love to see it, buy it, install it in a rep/franken! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elprimerozen Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Here is a photo comparison of a gen and rep movement. These watch was send to Rolex for a service..and thing gone all wrong....they realized that they were looking at a SUPERB 3135 copy...and so they destroyed the movement by bending it!! Enjoy these litle pics as these are the only ones that i have personaly looked on the web! First Gen then rep: Look what they have done to this "king" of rep movement!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickdick Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 So the plot thickens... How long ago did you get the clone 3135? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elprimerozen Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 So the plot thickens... How long ago did you get the clone 3135? This movement its NOT mine! I have seen these pics on the web....and there was a discusion about this incident.its been almost a year now(the pics)...and i have tryed ever since to surce this kind of copy movement...but with no luck.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im2 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 He he.... i have at the moment a COPY eta 2678-2 in my hands....and i have it for almost a year, at my watch box with useless crap spare parts. Its a very very bad copy movement. I will post pics later... he he.. This movement came with a ladys datejust...and it was the worst movement ever!! ps:there will always be copy eta...as there are original Rolex 3135 movement copy exactly the same....i can post also pics from the copy 3135. Wow... that complicates things about the WM9 claims that it is a gen ETA movement.. If it is a rep, and a very bad rep movement . . .i dont know.. We have to wait.... What made wm9 to use a different movement in his new sub...? strange, isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Wow... that complicates things about the WM9 claims that it is a gen ETA movement.. If it is a rep, and a very bad rep movement . . .i dont know.. Um, huh? 1 - WM9 claims its a gen ETA movement. 2 - Someone points out that there is a crappy copy of that ETA in ladies reps. 3 - you decide that WM9 is using the crappy copies? Re-read the thread. WM9 is using ETA parts, according to experts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elprimerozen Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Um, huh? 1 - WM9 claims its a gen ETA movement. 2 - Someone points out that there is a crappy copy of that ETA in ladies reps. 3 - you decide that WM9 is using the crappy copies? Re-read the thread. WM9 is using ETA parts, according to experts. Well said!! I only talk about that there is a copy of the "small size" eta movement! WM9 uses gen eta movement!! Dont take it the wrong way ..... All i said was only for information that the copy eta exists also in ladys size! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast68 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Here is a photo comparison of a gen and rep movement. These watch was send to Rolex for a service..and thing gone all wrong....they realized that they were looking at a SUPERB 3135 copy...and so they destroyed the movement by bending it!! Enjoy these litle pics as these are the only ones that i have personaly looked on the web! First Gen then rep: Look what they have done to this "king" of rep movement!! Oww, that is painful to look at . I remember about a couple of years ago, there was some talk on one of the forums that work was being done to replicate the Rolex Day-Date movement exactly. It was also mentioned that progress was down to a fully operational prototype and that is was left up to testing to figure out how to mass produce, maybe that was one of them?? Gee, I gotta search to see if I can find that thread . Either way, if that was a copy movement, wow, it would have fooled me. Stuff like that really makes you doubt everything you see on the web, which in a way, can improve Rolex's buisiness ("the only way to ensure you are getting the real thing, is to buy directly at a Rolex AD"). Interesting stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im2 Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Um, huh? 1 - WM9 claims its a gen ETA movement. 2 - Someone points out that there is a crappy copy of that ETA in ladies reps. 3 - you decide that WM9 is using the crappy copies? Re-read the thread. WM9 is using ETA parts, according to experts. 3. i did NOT say i decide anything. We just talk. 1. If a dealer claims something i cease to have any right to question it? It is your right to believe anything the dealers say to you, it is also my right to question it. 2. Yes, i read that. Tribal seemed to be confused about how they managed it to fit it. I just followed his thought. Plus, BK, who i trust, said that no copy of that movement exists...however another member, elprimerozen, said that he has a copy of this movement. So do i have the right to be skeptical? Or am i denied this right ? Anyway, excuse me if you think i am being rude. It is mot my intention pugwash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizsladog Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 I Had my euromariner watch opened by a couple of different watchmakers and both commented on how nice the ETA movement was. Both said it was a gen ETA movement and will last a very long time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stilty Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Here is a photo comparison of a gen and rep movement. These watch was send to Rolex for a service..and thing gone all wrong....they realized that they were looking at a SUPERB 3135 copy...and so they destroyed the movement by bending it!! Enjoy these litle pics as these are the only ones that i have personaly looked on the web! First Gen then rep: Look what they have done to this "king" of rep movement!! So I guess this seller from Korea is selling some DJ's with fake movements? But here is another pic of a 3135 and it looks the same as well. So is the top picture rep or bottom in your comparison pictures? A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 This is what is inside my 16600 and that was recently serviced by Rolex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
im2 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 This is what is inside my 16600 and that was recently serviced by Rolex :o is it an ETA movement inside instead of a rolex one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 :o is it an ETA movement inside instead of a rolex one ? Not really. But it would be funny if they serviced an eta! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patfvl Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 On the wm9 public forum i started a thread about this and George gave the information that this smaller movement will make possible to use a bigger solid bronze retaining ring to the movement so that the weight will be exactly the same of the Gen- 135g with the new holow mid link bracelet installed. WM9 was normally 2836-2 i can't believe they put a Eta 2678-2 in it. Diameter of this movement is 7,75" = 17,2mm How will they manage to get the date at the right Position? I'm really confused about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patfvl Posted November 12, 2008 Report Share Posted November 12, 2008 On the wm9 public forum i started a thread about this and George gave the information that this smaller movement will make possible to use a bigger solid bronze retaining ring to the movement so that the weight will be exactly the same of the Gen- 135g with the new holow mid link bracelet installed. QUOTE (Tribal @ Nov 6 2008, 10:02 AM) WM9 was normally 2836-2 i can't believe they put a Eta 2678-2 in it. Diameter of this movement is 7,75" = 17,2mm How will they manage to get the date at the right Position? I'm really confused about this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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