hilts Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Well, after waiting for this for ages, this arrived today from a well known dealer here. I could see clearly even before I removed the protectve plastic is that the 12 o'clock marker is clearly and obviously misaligned. It is so obvious that I think it is a deal breaker for me. In addition, there is "pitting" in several places on the "ceramic" bezel. To be fair, the macro photos show up everything which is maybe not visible to the naked eye, but the pitting is pretty obvious. Before I go back to my dealer, I'd like to get people's thoughts. Is this marker issue one that you think I should raise with the dealer and ask for a refund/replacement, or should I take this on the chin and mark it up to "you win some you lose some" experience? My thoughts tend towards the former, but I'd like to hear what you think. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 The pitting is enough to ask for a replacement. As for the marker I can't tell from the photo that it is misaligned? Still, you should get him to replace it anyway. On mine the marker is spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilts Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 I can't tell from the photo Hopefully this is clearer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowball Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 How much did you pay for this watch? I think, I would send it back. Inferior quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 That is very poor, but then I have never been impressed with any of the deepsea replicas. The full ceramic GMT2 is just so much nicer, in fit and finish I would ask for a replacement if it was a pricey purchase, either the wonky 12 marker, or poor quality bezel would be enough for me, on there own or together... What version is this and how much did you pay? Care to name the dealer? Good luck! PS: Drop shipping FTL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilts Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 This was supposedly a V3 Swiss ETA - $248. Don't want to name the dealer until I've given him the chance to sort it. But it was cartel sourced. Stupid me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilts Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Sorry - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve G Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I don't think that the pitting on your bezel is really pitting. When mine arrived I had two spots very similar to yours around the four o'clock marker. I was [censored] because I thought it was scratches in the bezel. Then I thought well this is supposed to be ceramic and it shouldn't scratch. So I bravely and carefully used the back (rough side) of a scotch brite sponge and the marks dissapeared. Evidently they are flexs of dryed paint from the numbers and markers. You just have more than I did. And yes the bezel must really be some sort of ceramic because the sponge didn't scratch it. Just gently apply to the bezel with a gentle hand. The 12 o'clock marker I can't help you with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanikai Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Sorry to hear of the issues with your DS. my dealer is sourcing me another bezel insert as it is not spot on to the crystal... I suggest you contact your dealer,.. I'm sure you can find a solution with his help Aloha~Cheers Lani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Whoever is the dealer, it's the same old song. V3? One step back in fact. The 12 o' clock marker, you can't do anything yourself. It must be a bad batch of dials. So, like the other comments, I would send it back and ask for a replacement. Cheers Stephane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurai Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I am in the same boat as Lani on this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 That is very poor, but then I have never been impressed with any of the deepsea replicas. The full ceramic GMT2 is just so much nicer, in fit and finish I have come to a similar conclusion over the Deepsea (the model, not just this version of it), so I think I am going to let this pass as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Padge Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I have come to a similar conclusion over the Deepsea, so I think I am going to let this pass as well. Indeed, there is no way the DS is from the same factory as the GMT2, and $360 for the watch pictured is just shocking! Send it back man! Ask for a cross ship replacement too to save time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADRED7 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I strongly believe that your dealer will stay in contact with you on this.....if the dealer is the one I think of, than he is a stand-up and very helpful guy.....errrrhhh and trustworthy Theo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMarine Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hopefully this is clearer? I see it. It would bug me. I hope your dealer comes through for you. Cheers! R Nav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbchubb Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 I would contact the dealer and complain. Too pricey a rep to accept Canal Street quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmarin.72 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Whoever is the dealer, it's the same old song. V3? One step back in fact. The 12 o' clock marker, you can't do anything yourself. It must be a bad batch of dials. So, like the other comments, I would send it back and ask for a replacement. Cheers Stephane +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilts Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 UPDATE. Emails back and forward from the dealer this morning who has been very swift to respond and communication has been good. He initially offered me a refund, then a dial (which I wouldn't know how to change), now has offered another watch but WILL NOT offer me a Deepsea as he believes that I will complain about any watch from his batch. I have bought about 15 watches from this dealer over 3/4 years and have had (and will hopefully continue to have) a good relationship with him so slightly surprised that he wouldn't just send another one (I presume this watch is a one off rather than the whole batch being so bad), but at least he has offered a refund/another (different) watch. So I guess that's the end of the story. I'll send it back, order a GMT II and keep my fingers crossed that it lives up to the reviews I've seen. Maybe I jumped in too soon and should wait for the Ultimate version - when and if it arrives! Thanks for all comments - you've confirmed my own thoughts which is always useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvc Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Oh dear, I was about to pull the trigger on this. Are we talking a bad batch or just 1or 2 off out of the batch? If its a bad batch then I am annoyed coz by definition, doesn't that mean some unsuspecting customers are gonna get them. Shouldn't the dealer response be "Its a bad batch so I am not willing to sell them."? A 30 second qc would tell a dealer thats not acceptable. Or does the complaint ratio warrant the risk of passing on poor quality watches. Why is this cr*p accepted? BVC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 my deepsea had crap all over the bezel also and a little scrubbing with some rubbing alcohol and a cloth and its fine now. This sure was one dirty watch when i received it. Im gunna clean it up well tongiht and give it some polishing.. the finish is terrible especially on the bracelet and clasp. it looks "unfinished" to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilts Posted January 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Well, that's that - Deepsea has gone back to dealer. GMT is en route. Fingers crossed for a better QC experience this time round. After that, I guess I'll be waiting for the wm9 SD if I want real quality!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenacious_b Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I have this watch on order from a stateside dealer, Sead (supermirrors) from RG. He is wildly popular at the moment and gets a lot of good feedback. I will post a review of the watch (QC wise) and my experience with him when it arrives today or tomorrow. He gives the option to dropship or order from him once he has stateside stock. I chose the latter. Hope the QC makes a difference; we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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