baltic Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I thought I'd take a few photos of my gen and rep (before it moved on) Moon Watch, for info and to show how damn close the rep is! Ok here goes first a dial up side by side (gen on left): The dials are close although the printing on the gen is much sharper. The rep's subdials are recessed but less than the gen's. The gen's dial also slopes down from the minute tick marks to the end of the dial, only noticeable if you have the watch at the end of your nose! Next the gen: the rep: From dial up, apart from the obvious sub-dial spacing and shorter markers at 3, 6, 9 on the rep, the hashes on the tachy scale on the gen don't extend across the black bezel insert, Swiss Made is in a wider font and the rep has a wider silver 'ring' around the dial; when you examine the gen it has a collar the same colour as the dial that angles up from the dial to meet the inside edge of the case. The cases are near 1:1 in size. Crown to crown (gen on top): You can see that the reps lugs are slightly thicker with a pronounced curve towards the end. The crown is a good match on the rep but has more 'flutes' (don't know the right term!). The bracelet links are fatter on the rep. The cases for both seem to be the same depth, but I didn't measure them. Side by side back up (gen on left): Obviously the rep has a display back. The polished underside of the gen's lugs are finished to a higher standard (which you'd expect as it's 10x the price) but only noticeable side by side. The reps serial number is completely bogus and doesn't tally with OMEGA'S sequenceing. Bracelet catch (gen below): Practically identical in size, the gen has 'Professional' engraved on it and it's engraving is clearer than the reps, again only noticeable side by side. Gen bracelet curve: Rep bracelet curve: The gen's bracelet is flat without the rep's noticeable curve. The rep's bracelet is extremely high quality and has a more satin shiny finish than the gen. Together at home: They weigh within 5g of each other (rep being the heavier!!). To my eyes the biggest tell apart from subdials is the 'silver ring' around the dial of the rep as it doesn't have the angled 'collar'. I hope you find this interesting, if you have the rep you have a damn fine watch in itself, but the gen 'spoke' to me more. Cheers, Baltic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 It's a shame you didn't have a chance to weigh the heads and bracelets separately. Were there the same number of links in each bracelet when you weighed it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic Posted October 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 It's a shame you didn't have a chance to weigh the heads and bracelets separately. Were there the same number of links in each bracelet when you weighed it? There were the same number of links in each bracelet to start with, however when I weighed them there was one more link in the gen's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Wonderful review, I would never have picked up on the differences you identified. Does your gen have the 861 or 1861 movement in it? Curious as one of the gen's I serviced had the 861 movement in it, but it was an older version. Great job, thanks for this, RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic Posted October 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hi Rob, Thanks very much. The differences are only really noticeable if you have lived with the watches and are a bit obsessive about Speedmasters (guilty as charged...!). Mines the 1861 movement, it changed from 861 to 1861 in 1997. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Hi Rob, Thanks very much. The differences are only really noticeable if you have lived with the watches and are a bit obsessive about Speedmasters (guilty as charged...!). Mines the 1861 movement, it changed from 861 to 1861 in 1997. Great stuff, thanks for the feedback...not sure of the differences between the 861 and 1861, but the 861 is certainly a nice movement as I am sure the 1861 is also...too pretty to hide behind a solid caseback... Wear it well. RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Thanks Baltic, a classic post! This goes linked straight to the Omega Guide now. PS: I always said the rep is great. You can't do anything to the subdial spacing issue so members' complaining about it is kinda useless. You either live with those or buy the gen (same thing with other Speedmasters... and the new PO Chrono). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x86uops Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Great review... thanks. I love the watch, gen and rep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster1 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 ....too pretty to hide behind a solid caseback... RG The Zigmeister, your soooo right.....the 861 / 1861 movements are sweet. I have both rep and gen Speedmasters as well....and the display back of the rep fits the gen perfectly. Well, at least mine does. My watchmaker tested the water resistance and it passed without any problems. Of course, the watch is only rated for a depth of 50 feet or so, so I'm not going swimming with it on. B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Thanks baltic for a great side by side review. Still one of my favourite watches. Just got to get me one of these.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsons Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Excellent & very helpful comparison, baltic. The Speedy is certainly one of those rare watches with a timeless design, rich history and represents a darn good value for the $. It has always been in demand for a darn good reason. Very wise choice going for the gen. Congrats on your purchase. It's a gorgeous watch that you will enjoy for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertk Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I just noticed Joshua has just listed one. No details yet, but I'm waiting...... Great comparison. I've wanted one for a long time and you've moved me to start looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nachete Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Mark, congratulations with the watch, by the way the pictures are very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard lawton Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hi Excellent comparison. This is still one of my favourite watches also. Here is a photo of my moonwatches Best Regards Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic Posted October 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Great stuff, thanks for the feedback...not sure of the differences between the 861 and 1861, but the 861 is certainly a nice movement as I am sure the 1861 is also...too pretty to hide behind a solid caseback... Wear it well. RG I think the only difference between them is that the 1861 has a rhodium plated bridge which gives a silver look while the 861's is gold plated, otherwise they are exactly the same. I'm now actually after a display back for it. @By-Tor I'm honoured to be linked to the Omega guides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkey Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Nice looking watches. This is great comparison as I've started looking to buy a gen Moon Watch & would rather not buy a thousand dollar rep. Thanks for the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slartibartfast Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Hi Excellent comparison. This is still one of my favourite watches also. Here is a photo of my moonwatches Best Regards Richard Two gens. Now that's just greedy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted October 13, 2006 Report Share Posted October 13, 2006 Excellent post with beautiful pics, thanks. It`s a great watch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choongsam Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 i have always wanted a omega speedmaster is there anyone you would recommend for me to buy one from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guiness Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 where did you find one with the domed plexi chrystal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Um this post is 3 years old Guiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 We have just worked out a good conversion for the crystal and is fairly easy but the different cases need different sizes have a look in my signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBond Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 But the gen doesn't exist with a display back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 But you can order a gen display back from Omega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 And if you have a solid back i know a number of people who are interested in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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