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go to page 3, halfway down Vlydog also has it saved somewhere
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I had no problems with Jee lately. Bought a cheap $55 watch, good service, and I promptly took it apart and used the various parts I was after.
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No, in the 70's the Datejust was 36mm. It did have a pie-pan dial though.
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Have you got a set of calipers? If not, buy a set- $15 at Harbor Freight, don't know what it costs where you are, but you have to have them if you're going to do any watch work. I doubt it will work- measured a Datejust dial at 27.88mm. Measured a Rolex Date dial which goes in the 1500 Date case which is 34mm and it's 26.74mm. You probably could mount a Rolex Date dial in a 34mm Tudor case. Remember that a Datejust case is 36mm, so it's two mm bigger than the 34 mm Tudor case.
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Cool Chi! Are you using a 2824-2 for your franken Date and a 1500 case?
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Did the gen 1665s come just with a dome crystal?
alligoat replied to Prsist's topic in The Rolex Area
Thanks for the clarification, RS. By the time the GWSD came around, I was under the impression they no longer were using the superdome. If the first pic is a SD, it's very similar to PT's domed crystal and close to Nanuq's SD. I always thought the SD had taller sides. Anyway, at least I'm enjoying my aftermarket service replacement on my GWSD- I'm just happy it's WR for swimming, jet skiing and wadefishing. What good's a fake Rolex if you can't go in the water with it? -
The 2846-2 in my PT 1665 is a swiss eta. A screw fell out of one of the gears and became lodged in the movement, stopping it dead- off to the watchmaker I went. He fixed it and confirmed that it was a swiss movement. I'm not aware of this movement being cloned at this point. Of course I also wonder where the heck they are getting all of these movements from. Like freddy says, it hasn't been produced in quite a few years.
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Did the gen 1665s come just with a dome crystal?
alligoat replied to Prsist's topic in The Rolex Area
Here's a pic I 'borrowed' of a GWSD with the later crystal. The PT 1665 crystal is similar to it. This is the aftermarket Super Dome crystal I put on my GWSD rep- not exactly correct for the later model, but I like it. -
Nice build Frank! I'm thinking a 1675 can't be too far behind.
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Expensive, and kinda looks like a dial from Ingod44- the red sub one that I looked at.
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Yep, Rolex is inconsistent. Just look at the 'Submariner' on your serti dial- note the serifs on the printing. Then look at the LV dial- no serifs. Different dials, differents styles. Variations on 16610 dials have also occured over the years. The flat 'S' dial comes to mind. And Rolex has used the same dial on Subs from mid 80's on- a 16800 dial will fit a 16610.
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Shoot B, for $13.60 how can you go wrong? Like jmb says, these crystals always vary a little anyway, so get a few extras! Thanks for the lead! BTW, I got one from Clark's this week and it looks good also.
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Jack, don't get too hung up on the two M's- here's a gen dial- look at the m's! As you can see the upper m is left of the m in chronometer. And it's a late model gen LV. Even Rolex varies from run to run on this. Generally, WM9 dials are pretty good, noobs aren't bad and MBW's are third. Like JoJo says, you can always put a gen dial in there (but it's still a fake!)
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Nice job LH! That's quite a stable of watches you've gathered. I'll be interested to see how you make out on the 45 minute conversion. Where oh where have all the old Valjoux pros disappeared to? I did see where DW had a replica V72 part for sale- aftermarket. http://cgi.ebay.com/8720-PARTS-VALJOUX-72-/230532429427?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35accdb673
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Would i be happy with a Vintage Seadweller 1665?
alligoat replied to Prsist's topic in The Rolex Area
I've certainly enjoyed my GWSD 1665. It's a PT case w/ the 2846-2 slow beat movement and an MBW dial. Put on a gen crown and an aftermarket T-39 superdome. It's WR so I swim and wadefish with it. Great beater for $400. Here's a side shot of the domed crystal- it doesn't bother me. I also think the SSD V2 is a good rep to get and Jackjo's mods would make it even better. -
Stripped down my PT SR 1680 and found this - PLEASE HELP
alligoat replied to Mapman57's topic in The Rolex Area
I'm not sure how you manage to keep the crystal retention ring on there, but that's where your problem lies. You need a new/correct crystal retention ring. The original PT 1680 came with the retention ring and a plastic (nylon) gasket. The gasket has been omitted and someone glued the crystal in place. You need to remove the crystal, clean off the glue and install a new crystal, and then get a new retention ring which is the correct size and press it on with a crystal press. Then put the flat washer on and snap on the bezel (with the insert). JMB is the one to help you with the crystal retention ring- he's made quite a few of them and knows what it takes. Good luck. -
And you're dealing with a 46 year old watch. It could have been polished in the past. The flat bottom part between the two crown guards looks correct to me. I'd look for other things if you're concerned about the watch.
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+1 I agree with highoey! But NDT's copy dials aren't bad, if you can get by the price.
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This is always a good place to start: http://www.doubleredseadweller.com/comex%20watch.htm A couple of batches of 16800's were put out in the 80's- first were the matte dials and then a batch w/ the gloss dial.
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Wow! It looks like you guys are on to something- a good 1675 build. A decent aftermarket dial, a movement and hands and you will be there. Look forward to seeing some more.
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Dial size for a 1680 is 26.5mm, 5513 is even smaller. Dial for 16800/16610 is 27.3mm. So a 16610 dial won't fit in a 1680 case.
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Bezel assembly is exactly the same- in fact, the 16610 uses the 16800 parts numbers as far as the whole bezel assembly isd concerned and the crystal is the same 295-C2. The case itself has a slightly shallower rehaut and is fitted with the 3035 movement. The 16610 case has the deeper rehaut and takes the 3135 movt.
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A local watchmaker should give you the springbar, I'm sure it costs a nickle. I could send you one, but it's easier if you have the bracelet present to make sure it works. Just don't go to a Rolex AD!
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OMG, A Pair of Redundant Bezeled Pre-Daytonas
alligoat replied to alligoat's topic in The Rolex Area
Thanks guys. I think my next project may be an 'albino' dialed 6239. Of course, I have to talk DW into making the dial first- but that ought to be easy- just leave off the black paint on the subdials! The Patrizzi Pocket Daytona book has some nice pics of the 'albino' dials- may shoot a pic of one of those tomorrow. -
Looks gen to me- pre 2000 with the tritium dial and flat 'S' in Submariner. Proabably has the SS clasp- no gold in it like the later clasps.