freddy333

Got it. So the narrow tubes on my bracelet are there by design & not a defect, which means that until/unless Yuki can get the factory to correct this, the bracelet will be a beautiful door stop. Thanks.

Exactly, it is the nature of the beast. Most people soak their rep bracelets in an attempt to loosen-up the few links that slightly bind (due to imprecise machining/assembly). Every link in a stretch bracelet binds & lubrication does little to change the way they feel. I guess if you like to wear bracelets tight against your wrist, the stretchability would be a welcome change. But, if you are like me (I wear my watch so that I can slip a pinky finger in between the bracelet & my wrist), the binding nature of a stretch rivet is just something you put up with in exchange for authenticity (which, for me, ranks above all else).

7750s occasionally pop-up for sale in the Trading section, but you (or your watchmaker) would need to remove the rotor (or auto-wind assembly) yourself. Otherwise, buy a donor watch from 1 of the collectors here or check ebay or some of the watch supply houses (ofrei.com, cousinsuk.com, etc).

Did your fit gen (2mm) springbars or were they aftermarket (1.5mm) 'bars? And did you post any pics of the bracelet on your watch? If so, I wonder why no one spotted it (or mentioned it)? Considering how long the market has been crippled with junk bracelets, the appearance of an accurate sample is pretty newsworthy stuff.

What watch was it attached to?

Quite the contrary. In fact, the 7206 is 1 of, if not the most uncomfortable bracelet there is. The discomfort is not so much from the pinching (which they do), but from the fact that the springs maintain tension to keep the links drawn together, which leaves the links somewhat stiff & less pliable. These bracelets feel kind of like a cheap rep bracelet where the links bind a bit, making the bracelet feel stiff. This is 1 of the reasons I use only folded links on my Daytonas (62xx Daytonas were available with either folded links or rivets). And you sold it why?

Yes, like the gen, it is screwless. To resize (assuming the clasp does not provide sufficient adjustment), you need to unfold 2 links & then either add another link (to enlarge) or remove a link (to reduce). Then, refold the 2 links. Unfortunately, very few watchmakers outside of the Rolex service network have the correct tool to perform this procedure. It can be done with a pair of screwdrivers, but, without having the proper jig to hold & shape the links during the unfolding/refolding, the end result (in my experience) is often bent &/or mangled links. Fortunately, because Yuki's bracelet is roughly 1/12th the cost of the average gen, you can always get another bracelet if the 1st 1 is less than wearable after a diy resizing job.

Beautiful.

Believe me, even an expert will have trouble ID'ing this bracelet if seen in the right context (like attached to a gen watch or sold by a generally reliable seller, who, himself, may not know). This thing is that good. The intended purpose for the stretch-ability is comfort. In hot weather, when your wrist tends to expand, it allows the bracelet to expand so the owner does not have to manually enlarge the bracelet at the clasp & then reduce it when his wrist contracts again. I could also wear it over a wet suit or use the stretch to remove the bracelet without unclasping it. But, if the the internal springs on the rep bracelet are similar to the springs on the gen, I would not exercise the bracelet's stretching limits too far or too often. 1 of the reasons I paid $1,200 for my last gen is because the springs are all in perfect working order, which is rare for a 7206. The springs on most of these bracelets tend to wear out or break over time or if stressed frequently.

As it turns out, you CAN get an accurate, well-made riveted Rolex bracelet. And you can have your cake & stretch it, too (but you may not be able to fit it onto your watch). Read on......... I just received my black 62xx Daytona bezel & 7206 bracelet from Yuki & I have some good (actually HEADLINE-worthy) news & some bad news. The bezel The good news is that the factory finally got the spacing correct on the '110' The bad news is that the printing quality is not as good as DW's. Some of the printing is slightly off-axis, some numbered pairs' sizes do not match &/or not real crisp (typical aftermarket quality). So, compared to DW's bezels, it is 1 step forward (since the '110' spacing is no longer a dead give-away), but, once again, 1 step backward (the variable printing quality). The 7206 riveted (stretch) bracelet The good news is that the quality is light years better than any other non-Rolex 'rivet' bracelet I have ever seen (& I have seen ALOT of them). Although the gen is somewhat flimsy compared to many modern bracelets, Yuki's copy feels exactly the same. I suspect it weighs the same as well. The REAL good news is that, overall, the design is nearly a 1:1 copy. This thing even s-t-r-e-t-c-h-e-s. Yes, just like my gens Overall, I would rate its accuracy at about 98% (by contrast, previous aftermarket rivets get about a 50% rate, at best). Good enough so that at an arm's length away (my benchmark for judging the credibility of a rep watch), I CANNOT tell it apart from my gen 7206s. And I am not exaggerating. Even next to each other in the palm of my hand, I can barely tell them apart & if the gen was not attached to my Sub, I am afraid I would be unable to reliably ID Yuki's from the gen without a close inspection. The clasp is nearly perfect & the individual links are nearly the same size & shape as the gen links. Even the (80) end links are an almost perfect match. This bracelet, like the recent crop of Asian-made ETAs, is so filthy good that it WILL be finding its way onto ebay & sold as gen -- either alone or attached to a gen watch & there is little you can do to protect yourself against paying gen prices for 1 of these. This bracelet is so good that I am (almost) kicking myself for spending so much for my last gen. Anyway, enough of my chatting, have a look for yourself (in case you are finding it difficult to tell them apart, the gen is attached to my watch) Now, the bad news. The leaves in the clasp lack either a date or date code. While I have seen a couple gens like this, I remain unconvinced that these undated bracelets ever left the (Rolex) factory that way. So that is an issue. The engravings also differ from those on the gen bracelets. But the worst news is that the tubes within the end links are too small to fit 2mm springbars, which are what the watches designed to accept a 7206/80 bracelet use (gen on top) I have contacted Yuki to let them know about these 2 issues & will update this thread as soon as I know more. Can you imagine the fun when these guys produce a 19mm 7205/71 or 7205/271 of similar quality (assuming they have not already done so)? Boggles the mind.

Most likely, the 726 part is also discontinued & Borel just has not updated their site listing (frequent problem with them). More than half the vintage Rolex movement parts I have ordered from their website, result in my receiving a note a week or 2 later (by land mail) explaining that the part is no longer available. Yet the parts remain listed on their website.

Weird. I picked up a copy of H a couple years ago for 1 of my early DW projects, but it had a (symmetrically pushered) Landeron movement instead of Valjoux. So I re-sold it.

Wearing this old thing today

I have never handled Yuki's 62xx Daytona cases, but the only real issue with DW's are their lack of engraved serial & model numbers between the lugs (the numbers are there, but they are laser etched, which is wrong for Rolex). The basic shape/dimensions of DW's middle case/caseback are nearly spot-on. Of course, QC is effectively non-existent, so variations do exist.

I emailed the seller, hoping my 'question' would get posted to both scare other potential bidders away &, hopefully, attract the attention of ebay's security team. But he just reiterated what he said to others & it never got posted.

I cannot blame inexperienced buyers. There was a time, not too long ago, when I would have salivated over that POS. Ignorance is bliss. But that seller should be outed. I wonder if a bunch of us should, 1-by-1, post questions (in the form of comments) in his auction?

Neither the dial (incorrect fonts, for starters) nor the movement (wrong regulating system, for starters) are genuine.

If, in fact, that is a DW case, I cannot understand how or why a non-DW dial (at least that 1) got put in there. For a better dial, I would go back to DW.

His usual MO. A few years ago, I was looking for a pair of aftermarket 580 end links for my 1665 that would fit gen (2mm) springbars. So, prior to my purchase, I emailed Mr. Slimeball 2 questions (I am posting them here verbatim) - 1. Will your end links fit genuine Rolex 2mm diameter springbars? His reply 'Yes, no problem'. 2. Are the parts I will receive exactly as pictured/described in your ebay page? His reply 'Yes, same as ebay'. The end links were rubbish, the springbar hoops were about .5mm too small (no way would a 2mm springbar ever fit) & they looked completely different than his pics. Initially, after sending him good, clear pics as well as a pics of the end links advertised in his ebay page, he agreed to send out the correct links. After nearly 8 weeks of email exchanges (he kept saying he never received the old end links back even though I also sent him (by email & standard mail) copies of the (signed, by him) USPS proof of delivery), he finally sent replacements, which not only looked completely different (& wrong), the replacements were missing the springbar hoops entirely. After pointing this out to him, he stopped responding to my emails, so I registered a complaint with Paypal, who, after receiving all of my paperwork & pics, AMAZINGLY, sided with Mr. S. The only black mark I ever received in all of my dealings on ebay. I do not know how he does it, but I have heard of similar experiences from a number of other ripped-off buyers. And to add insult to injury, I subsequently ordered from him 2 times after that (since no other options existed), but with the exact same result (crummy, incorrect parts). In each case, since the parts were cheap, I never bothered to register additional complaints. When dealing with Mr. Slimeball (using any of his numerous aliases), BUYER BEWARE.

At nearly 100 megs, you will need to rip it.

1 of the best songs ever written. Thanks for the link.

Put simply - that dial sucks. If this came from DW, I would send it back (& I am sure DW would replace it without question). Period. Although not perfect, here is my modded (7750-powered) DW 6263 Also, I believe Yuki has more accurate 6263 (black) bezels for these watches. The '110' on DW's (& most other aftermarket bezels) is spaced too far apart, but is correct on Yuki's (at least it appears that way in the pics on his website). I have a sample en route, which should arrive anytime & I will report back once I have it in hand. His price is fairly reasonable, too.

Ditto Alli. White datewheel for steel & champagne datewheel for gold & two-tone.

shultz - It looks good, except that it also reveals the inscriptions between the lugs as being etched (as opposed to engraved), which gives the watch away as a rep. Of course, this is a non-issue if you are unconcerned by this.