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It's an "F" series rep, so it shouldn't have a sandwich dial or a brushed CG. Your other points are valid, however.

Well, if you have some calipers handy you *might* be able to pull a measurement off of the crystal while it's still in your watch. DSN's replacement crystals are 35.5mm.

Is this a crystal that you have in your posession? Can you get the outer diameter of the crystal?

Vic, your DSN 112 has good "A"s, even if the overall font is a bit thin. Corgi, I don't need to chill. I never claimed it was the end of the world or that I wouldn't wear the watch. Quite the opposite, actually. If you read my other posts, I clearly state that I ordered the watch KNOWING about the low "A"s. I'm wearing it today, actually. However, as I also said in my other posts, just because it's a flaw I'm willing to live with doesn't mean it isn't a flaw worth discussing. It also doesn't mean that it isn't an easy way to spot a rep. "Dude... Chill." -- Sage advice, perhaps you'd be well served to heed it yourself?

<SIGH> That dial is SO close to being right. If only he would fix the shape of the 6 and 9. I'd buy a 201/a, 202/a AND 203/a!

It certainly appears so. AFAIK, there are NO 113/003 rep dials with recessed subsecond dial. My guess is that this is the dial that was for sale on Paneristi a while ago by VanniC. Beano2004 bought a couple of these dials from him a while back...

Yep, it is a game. Part of the game, for me, is to make the reps I buy better. Better to me is anything that improves the reliability, accuracy or functionality of the watch. The same reason I like to modify cars or motorcycles, really. Do any of these things NEED modification? Not really, but it's fun. I'm not out to fool anyone. No, the low crossbars won't cause me to put the watch away in a drawer and never wear it, I knew it had low crossbars when I ordered it. However, just because that flaw won't keep me from wearing the watch isn't a reason for me to pretend it's not there or not easily spotted if you know what to look for. Most people don't. There was a dial being sold on ViaPaneristi.com that was a rep dial, spotted by the low crossbars in the letter "A". The seller didn't know it was a rep and kye_lin almost bought it for $750.

Look at the dial of my Angus "Ultimate" 001B, tell me those "A"s aren't easily spotted? This dial is much more representative of a "normal" rep dial. Not *all* reps have the low crossbar "A"s, but most do.

It's EASILY noticeable if you know what to look for. You don't need a loupe to spot it...

No there are lots of rep dials out there with MUCH lower crossbars on the "A"s. Josh's 090 dial just appears to be pretty good... Some of Davidsen's dials have more accurate "A"s, too. My 010 has great fonts, IMO.

You sure about that?

Ditto. Also, how did you polish the bezel? Did you remove the 5 min markers before polishing it?

Any pics of the back of the watch, wan?

Yeah, I would try Joshua, I sourced one from him a while back (like over a year ago). I *think* DSN's Ti cases are standard sized so they'll accept "normal" rep dials. I'm not certain, though.

It would seem so. To be honest, I think anyone paying that much for a strap is insane.

I thought Mark was out of the rep game? Good looking watch! That's a DSN dial, do you know where the case came from? Any pictures of the back?

And the answer is......?

That movement pictured sure looks Swiss to me... DSN's Ti case/crown for the 036 is more accurate. There are some issues with the shade of brown used on DSN's watch, though. The dial pictured has the incorrect "L Swiss L" whereas it should be "T Swiss T". The Zigmeister can fix this issue, from what I've read/seen in other threads.

Hmmmm, interesting. I just followed the link and looked at the photos. Straight spokes on the balance wheel but using the Incabloc anti-shock system. I would tend to agree that movement is a knock-off ETA. Has someone notified Ruby? I know she's not real technical when it comes to watches, I think it's likely that these are being sold to her as "Swiss" from her supplier...

Homer = exclusive_watches_inc on eBay Joshua = pc-80108.com Andrew = trustytime88.com Davidsen and vaccum are both sources for "unbranded" or "homage" watches, too.

ANY 6497 that has Panerai decorated bridges is using Asian bridges. Not really bait and switch, IMO. The only 100% Swiss 6497s you'll find in rep watches are the ones that come with one of the standard levels of ETA decoration and no Panerai markings.

Looks gen to me. Why?

Oops! So he did. I need to review the thread before I post next time.

That's definitely an Asian 6497...

I dunno. Usually a day or two. <shrug> You can try The Zigmeister and see if you get a better response. Flav isn't doing mods anymore, I don't believe.