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http://www.pure-time.com/product/royal-oak-offshore-rg-full-paved-diamonds-jf-best-edition-on-black-leather-strap-a7750/ Looks like your secret wish came true just in time for Xmas mate, and I bet that you would cream your pants after clicking on the link! Anyone else wishes to join our ostentatious fellow bruddah and put on some bling? It is however my humble 2 cents that owning a Christmas tree, and being decorated like one, are two entirely different things. Let us wish JordanF1 all the best in his now-not-so-secret endeavor to buy and wear this watch. What if he doesn't like it after 2 weeks you ask? Well he could always sell it to my other bling-crazy friend positivitony..

Hint mate: the J12 FC 44mm is a popular model as well, especially if priced fairly. Sent from Mars using tapatalk

thank goodness you did not buy that mate. Our friendship would cease the moment that goes on your wrist for good Cannot afford to be risking my life hanging with drug lords and such you know... lol

Is that the 372 on the right mate? Stunning trio like you said..

6 slots for me please Mike, whatever watches it involves is besides the point.

Tissot powermatic 80: correct low beat movement with 80hrs power reserve. Sent from Mars using tapatalk

Very nice looking Pam, but I would have to say that I would not buy it for $10k. I noticed it says 8 days on the caseback.. does it mean a 192hrs power reserve?

mate, your wife has slightly hairier arms Just messing, lovely pair of watches, wear 'em well!

Hello Jamesu and welcome to RWG! The Rolex Milgauss is a superb first rep to have, congrats.

Thank you kindly. The master of ROO datewheels would know better than any other, I reckon.

No worries, that is what the forum is for. Enjoy the hobby, and ask politely if you need help. You will get more obliging assistance that way.

OK this watch belongs to a local friend, who is not part of the boards for some unfathomable reason. I swapped a watch with him for a week, and decided to do a short review on it. This watch is the Noob version of the 44mm ROO forged carbon, released in late 2014. The JF version was released in early 2014 if I am not mistaken. I have handled both versions of the watch, and in this short review, I would primarily give my opinion on the Noob while some comparisons may be made vs the JF. Let me first start by saying that the Noob 44 FC is a well made watch. The bezel is very nicely crafted, and the first thing I noticed when receiving the watch is that the bezel displays different sheens of color depending on how it catches the light. It could be black in dim lighting, and a very nice steely charcoal color when it catches the light at an angle. This is just like how the gen watch is. The bezel is definitely not a flat dull black, and personally, is very pretty when it appears to be an interesting metallic grey color under florescent light. This gives it some variation against the black dial, and the marbled black forged carbon casing. The bezel screws of both the J12 and Noob are generally well made, polished and well aligned. Be careful about uneven recess of the bezel screws in some specimens. But this is a minor flaw that any watchsmith could fix without much difficulty. The mid casing itself, as the name implies, is made of "improved" forged carbon as claimed by Noob. Against the J12 model, the Noob version is slightly more glossy, and as the marbling could vary vastly from watch to watch, I would just say that the marbling effect is more visible vs the earlier forged carbon cases of the J12, and like the bezel, displays interesting vagaries when exposed to different lighting . A little polishing wax would definitely make the marbling stand out, and would show off the full extent of the beauty of forged carbon. I have seen genuine FC with duller case finishes, and of course, I have seen better ones than the watch pictured. The case could benefit from a simple polish, to bring it to a gen-like finish. But it is definitely not something bland looking out of the box. I would give the finish an impressive score of 9/10, if the best gen finish is 10/10. The case is slightly thicker vs gen to accommodate the modified A7750 sec@12 movement, but this is something most would generally forget when wearing the watch. The dial: I really like the Noob dial. The signature tapisserie pattern of the dial really seems to pop out at you whenever you glance at the watch, so much so that you tend to neglect to see what the time is when you look at the watch. The edges of each raised "square" is well defined, distinct, and neat, like silent black sentinels. The black dial matches very nicely with the red subdial hands, the white moving second hand, the steel markers with center-lume, and of course the chrome AP badge. One thing I notice is that the Noob FC has whiter colored lume on the markers and hands vs the JF, which could have slightly greenish lume. Lume strength wise, the JF one seems to have the slight edge. The Noob FC lume is good enough for me though. Like any other pretty timepiece, it is a travesty to immerse it in prolonged darkness. A note on the hands: there are comments that mentioned that the central chrono hands, as well as the sub dial hands bases, should be black instead of the chrome which Noob uses. The fact is, both black and chrome chrono hands exist, likewise for the sub dial hand bases. Fret not, my fellow AP afficionados, Noob has not made a mistake here. It was just a case of different versions of the genuine FC watch being repped. The subdials are nicely recessed as per gen, and the overall dial appears crisp and finished luxuriously. The date font used by Noob is a large plus point for me, having seen both the Noob and J12 fonts. Neither are wrong technically, as AP did do updates to the font in the recent years. The one Noob used is the older font, which to me possesses much more character than the J12 one. I do not know if it is period-correct, or model correct but if I owned this watch, I would not be swapping out the date wheel for the newer one, even if it is inaccurate. The comparison is like looking at a beautiful painting and looking at the teacher's chalk writings on the classroom blackboard. One holds your gaze, the other tends to shift it away. Of course, both Noob and J12 versions suffer from slight positional flaw in the datewheel position, and the ever slightly shorter marker at the 3 o'clock position. I could live with this though. The dial simply looks balanced and complete, and nothing seems really out of place on this one. One benefit of mostly black dials is that it could get away with small inaccuracies and flaws with almost placid complacency. This is one of the few AP ROOs that when you glance at the dial, and you will see its beauty, not the flaws, even with the noesis that the flaws do exist. I like the more accurate hour/minute hands used in the 44mm ROOs, as opposed to most of the hands used in the 42mm ROO models. The center pinion difference has become subtle now, and this is another pleasing visual treat in the 44mm FC. The crystal used by both Noob and J12 are both single coated AR crystals. Nonwithstanding, the Noob seems to have the slight advantage here, adding more visual clarity to the dial. The AR is very close to genuine for this watch actually, though many owners have opted to go for the double AR upgrade route. It would be nice to have, but unnecessary. The AR of the date cyclops is not the best, with a slight bluish tinge visible at certain angles. I could live with it, but it would be good if one could change out the cyclops for a clear double AR one. The pushers, pusher guards, crown, and crown guards are very similar to the set J12 uses. The pusher guards are correctly sandblasted with a dark grey finish, and the crown looks to be made from ceramic, with a nice brushed finish. I would not comment on the caseback in this review. The A7750 movement, silver screws or not, is a far cry from the caliber 3126/3840 AP uses for the genuine watch. But unless you are going to wear your watch back to front, I trust that this would not present a problem in most social situations. In brevity, without indulging in further sleep inducing verbosity, I would like to conclude that the Noob 44 FC would make an ideal everyday watch, and an ideal first ROO rep. It is a watch that makes a statement with mature poise, as opposed to yelling in your face and screaming "look at me, look at me!". The all black outfit could be livened up by the use of contrast in straps or stitchings, like my friend has done. The strap is a red saffiano set from SMPLover over at RWI. The straps fit very well due to the fact that inserts were being thoughtfully included by the maker. The watch is light and drapes very comfortably over my wrist (was 6", now its 6.25"). I would forget its there based on weight alone, but the serenade that its beauty sings to me makes it impossible to ignore. Just on a side note, this watch has been serviced and fitted with an ETA mainspring by spinmaster. It has been running very strongly since, with a tested power reserve of over 54hrs. The movement is also very smooth and quiet on the wrist, a contrast from when it first arrived from the factory, where the rotor whir reminds one vaguely of a copter take-off. If you are on the fence whether to add this to your collection, then I can confidently tell you that it is a no regret decision based on the build quality. The style may or may not be your cup of tea, but if you are an ROO fan, I would put this watch near, or at the top of the list of daily wearable ROO watches. Just a final disclaimer: Do not be impetuous and buy the watch based on my review. All ROOs (and rep watches in general) are flawed, some more than the rest. You have to love the watch and you have to know the flaws and what you could live with, and what you cannot never accept. I have been collecting ROO reps for some years now, and I personally find the Noob 44 FC model very palatable to me in terms of build quality and general accuracy.

I think just to be sure, let me tell you the correct website addresses: a. Intime = www.intime.co b. Puretime = www.pure-time.com. I think you are mistaken about the real website of puretime. You were probably on the wrong site in the first place.

Gen on left. But yes the reps are getting very close. Creeping up for the big "boo!" eventually.

Hi newbie The tourbillons (Hublot or AP or any other brand) should not cost more than $800. As to specific model and dealer, its your decision. One is not better than the other. Its a matter of which you are more comfortable communicating and dealing with.

Thank you kindly for your answer. It's a small flaw at worst. All reps are flawed, it's just a matter of what we can live with. Sent from Mars using tapatalk

Just curious, does it display the "wobbly" hand at the 3 o'clock subdial please?

so Mike I guess you won't be buying this afterall.. I guess that you are still saving up for the Mike in the Bike special edition pictured below..

Just hang on a bit mate, none of the recent ROO releases are good. They are simply filled with egregious flaws. It is as if the J12 factory is mindlessly rushing the releases just to milk the ignorant and eager buyers in the market. Hang on to your dough for the time being, even for the much hyped schumi, jarno trulli, 44mm anthracite dial, etc.. don't spend now and regret later.

I have the kw v3 bronzo, a most excellent iteration of the 382 I must say. I also considered the 389, 305, and 364 before settling finally on the 364. The decision was made based on accuracy and build quality. I have no idea how good or bad the kw version of the 389 would be, but it is a submersible that I have always liked to own. I held off purchasing it due to the quality of the current version.

Seriously Tony, what did I say about unicorns?? Just messing with you, haha. The white ceramic needs further improvement, it seems a little too translucent/glossy vs the gen, but if you have seen the gen, it also looks like a cheap novelty from some angles. Not my cup of tea either but I am not the 20 year old with deep pockets here. :D

And how did I miss that mate? I saw a nicely modded 217 that was on sale in RWI, but I was too slow to catch that one. Congrats, and wear her well!

Where did you get this beauty mate? The crystal has good distortion.

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Let me know if you need further help on this A.. you know where to get me as always.