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Ah yes you're right. I neglected to see that and it's my mistake. My apologies for that. Good luck getting the watch of your dreams. Sent from Mars using tapatalk

I used to own this but I sold it. I'm not sure if the current owner would deal with a newbie, you know how things are when it comes to high value watches like this. Sent from Mars using tapatalk

Lovely picture mate. I think you need the T3, Shaq or Legacy for your wrist.

Ah.. now why does that look too familiar? I think I know who the current owner is though lol

Not too bad dude, not bad at all! Sent from Mars using tapatalk

Dear Mark No worries, this forum is for sharing, learning, and slaughtering newbies for asking who has the best sub. OK I was kidding.. sometimes people don't share that much. I seriously suspect that my ex classmate, a gargantuan girl named Mary could also be seen from space. She was the mountain when we played "comin' round the mountain", so you have an idea about her, erm, extreme..visibility.

Gorgeous watch mate. I can't decide what to wear today. Sent from Mars using tapatalk

Now now, as long as the family jewels are in place, the rest could be worked out trust me.

I guess black lume is more black than lume.

You're right A, black lume is a waste of time utility wise. To be honest, before I joined the forum, I did not even know there was such thing as black lume. I see black markers and I think of "doomed to darkness". You said you like lume A.. ever considered a Ball watch?

The ROO Montauk Highway does not have lume. Also, remember that lume can be applied on any color of markers. In the link you showed, the panda has black lume, just like the gen. The black lume also appears in the ROO Safari, which also has black markers. Black lume is like lume doing a half-assed job lighting up the dial in the dark, preferring to align itself with the darkness rather than providing illumination, very weak.

Haha J, I did not even realise that you commented on this thread till now! Don't worry mate, you made a valid point. I made my post very completely independently of yours, without any allusions to your post. You're a good guy, always humble and always polite. What you said was true in general, and if you read my post, it was simply an extension of what you said.

I wish that I am as insightful as you believe. My past mistakes in life speaks otherwise J. But as I grow older, I hope to make fewer mistakes. I am hence reluctantly withholding my purchase on the Schumi. Patience, young jedi.

Schumi? Was this what this thread was about? Please pardon me young J. The Schumi is a well-made rep, but the datewheel ring, as well as the sub dial rings, are too thick. The datewheel font is a little off but liveable. The usual datewheel position flaw applies, and the actual finishing of the dial is not clear from the pics. In brevity, I am likely skipping this one, despite the marketing hype. I anticipate a V2, not out of naive hopes, but because the maker spent a lot getting this model repped and produced. They would be hoping to push numbers for this watch, and feedback from the market would be heeded more seriously, much like the diver series. I would advise you to be patient. Do not jump on the bandwagon just yet. You will likely end up selling it, knowing your fastidious character.

J, I am a low-profile collector of gen watches, like you are. But I think we both understand the value of owning a watch, gen or rep, for our own pleasure, and not needing to show it (them) to the world. What we wear, where we stay, what we drive, are all private affairs as far as we are concerned. The man stepping out of a Lamborghini and the man sedately driving his Toyota gets the same amount of respect from me, and I would not hesitate to tell either off if they step on my toes. Likewise for the guy flaunting his AP and the dude casually enjoying his G Shock. They are personal choices of watches and does not make the owner more respectable or impressive in my humble 2 cents opinion. The watch is meant to please the wearer and not the rest of the world. I wear my gens and reps almost equally, and I could not care less who looks at my watches. They are for me solely and not a single other person. I have stepped out of my fairly exotic car wearing a rep, and I have driven my more mundane work car wearing a $50k gen. Its my choice, like it is the choice of any one of you when it comes to what to wear, where to live, what to drive etc. Wealth is relative, and the world is a superficial place. Create your own universe and be happy in it. Live by your rules and keep yourself happy, as long as you do not cause harm to any others in the process. If your neighbour thinks your watch is a replica, its not your problem. If he thinks its gen, its not your problem either. Choose your watch and wear it well, and may you have many happy moments when you glance at it. The rest of the world? Why, it doesn't really matter does it? There are more than 6 billion people in this world. You only need to please one, where your watch is concerned.

Haha J, you flatterer. I know that you have been eyeing the diver series for a while now.. the V4 FC is the most accurate IMHO. And maybe the J12 ceramic diver which is yet to be released. You might want to consider those instead. I strongly believe that there WILL be a v2 for the white ceramic diver, and perhaps the ceramic finishing will be refined, but knowing them, they might regress on some other feature accuracy like hands, dial etc..you know the story well so yes, the ROO FC diver v4 by noob is the diver to get for now. You have waited long enough my friend. Lol

oops replied to folex in the wrong thread.

Hmm... to summarize what everyone said, and to add some opinions of my own, 1. The v4 is from Noob and the V5 is from J12 factory. Ignore the chinese way of naming iterations, they are misleading at times, deliberately in this case. 2. Get the v4 if you compare the two. It has a better dial, a more accurate hour hand, and datewheel. Actual case finishing is unknown for both v4 and v5. 3. Yes I have ordered the v4 and its on the way. I took a look at the v5 pictures and identified it as a rep instantly. True, the v4 may not be perfect as well but it is a lot more accurate IMHO. 4. In case you did not get the hint yet, the v4 is the one to get (for now).

I like how your picture shows the space between the date window and the tachyring. Nicely done.

Hey J, I'm not a veteran but the white ceramic looks very off to me if you can compare it to pics of the gen. The gen ceramic color seems to be more solid, and with a matte finish. The rep in the pictures look like a cheap toy trying to pose as an AP rep, a rep of a rep if you get me. Stay off for now, wait for the next iteration. Look at the divers mate, has there been a version without a next iteration?

Its good to see you grow up and learn.. The AP ROO 44 FC is indeed a good choice, can't go wrong with that. I have the same piece myself and its just a stellar wrist companion.

This particular version of the diver is very accurate to gen, and virtually, I had some hard time distinguishing the rep from the gen when it was worn on the wrist of a mate. It is large, wears large, and is comfortable on the wrist too. Congrats my friend, wear her well.

Just to share, I acquired this rare watch recently, with the following mods done: a. Extra jewels mod done b. Double AR with gold tinge c. Mikey Ti bezel screws d. Rose gold no holes clasp e. Datewheel surround modded to matte silver f. customized faceplate with titanium finish g. customized strap from APBands A quick pic

No more customized gold casing Richard Mille reps or reps from websites showing pics of gens? That's good. Taste wise I wouldn't touch the Cartier and 15400 tourbillon with a ten foot pole Sent from Mars using tapatalk

I like the tone of the orange, but the crown just looks horrible, sorry. Like what someone said, it looks like the same crown is used for both the inner bezel mechanism and the winding/ time-setting crown. Check out the crown of the gen diver pictured below. Yes, our reps will never be 100% perfect, but for such an established product line, I really do expect them to do a more accurate job.