Guys, I still consider myself as a noob (and probably will forever), but seriously, I knew about Joe as I read lots of stupid things (Dust Blow = 65$...).
I also read a lot of other bad stories about some "super modders".
So I stayed away from them.
@Diesel: I am so sorry of what happens to you ! Sincerely.
@ Double T: splendid 1680 indeed.
@All: I bought my 1680 Red MBW from Edge (a respected member here, and a very nice person).
I paid 750$ watch included.
The details of what Edge did to that watch can be found in the thread in my sig.
But believe me it's full of true gen parts.
I do not know Joe, thus will not say anything about that guy.
But I know personally many members who posted "stay away" and i'm glad this place, RWG, saved me from a so bad experience.
Waiting is not an issue.
Being screw*d is painfull.
Cheers
Stephane