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It may be a lot more than I would ever pay for a watch, and I'm guessing others in this thread, but I don't see that as a reason to knock it? I haven't read about any genuine reliability problems this has got? Are there any?

I don't know what you mean by 'way off'? You rotate the alarm hand to when you want the alarm to go off, so if you set it way off, it'll be way off. If you set it bang on, it'll be bang on.

I really like that actually! Nice find As others have said, discounts are hard to come by, I would try and ask for free shipping, or a free upgrade to express shipping. And buy a max of two at a time otherwise customs may intercept your package and "borrow" them And welcome to the forum!

GWP I've never held a gen so never compared the writing on the dial? You'd have to inspect the rep and the gen pretty damn closely to see that difference though? If someone was that interested, well, I'm not bothered if anyone knows it's a rep so I'd let them examine it, and likely be chuckling as they try to see what it is which would probably give it away It is certainly not something that would ever bother me and tend to make me not like the watch? Although I know there's lots of people who enjoy the hobby of getting as close to gen as possible - I'm completely ignoring that side of it as I can't afford to start doing that, I know there's no end to it

Hehehe, it's just that I'm a lazy sod My bike and car both sport the 'lived in' look, just a little bit dirty. Not too much though! Cars are easy, I have about 5 hand wash places within a few miles of me, and my usual one does a very good job. Of course the garage has the bikes in, so the car lives outside and gets dusty quickly. The bikes washed every few rideouts. The thing that takes the time I find is soaking the dead, baked on flies. And doing the wheels properly. And the swingarm, covered in oil or chain lube (depending which bike it is). I used to know a guy, great bloke, who religiously, every week, would strip his bike (sports bike) down, all fairings off, wheels off, cleaned, dried, polished, buffed, back together. The two bucket system plus half a dozen toothbrushes every week, plus expensive wash and waxes. I must admit when I go window shopping and look at used bikes, some of them probably look like mine, used, and some of them look showroom fresh - it's the parts I can't even figure out how to reach, like right behind the clutch cable entry into the crank case, that is immaculately clean, and you can tell it's always been that way as there's absolutely no ingrained dirt. I mean, they must remove the cable to get behind it, or use microscopic fairy toothbrushes! I've tried to get to those places with a pressure washer (can always tell when someone uses one to clean their bike a lot) and tried 'Gunk' degreaser, shifts the dirt but not the staining in the crankcase cover metal that doesn't take long to form. I think I've cracked it though! ACF50! Spray on, it protects the nice clean bike, repels water, resists rust, protects everything. Get new bike, cover everything with ACF50, ride for 2 years, never washing it. Before you sell it, you give it a good wash once, the ACF 50 comes off revealing a like new bike underneath! Result!

I'm trying to think of something cheaper you could move over too Mike. Matchboxes from the famous clubs? Lighters? Model aeroplanes? Stamps (cheap ones that is)? Steam engines? Tractors? Fish? Snuff boxes? Monocles of the rich and famous? Star Wars toys and memorabilia? Gold bars? Ok, the last one would cost about the same over a year, but after you've got one, the rest all look the same, no sunken DWO problems

No worries mate, just the way that the spammer replied to someone thanking you for your post as if they had posted it. I'd already reported the spammer for either having two accounts or there were two people working for the site they are spamming, both registered within a few days of each other, both spamming the same site, and this was the very next post of his I saw after seeing their Laurel and Hardy sketch and so I jumped to the wrong conclusion. No offense intended.

The only let down on my V1 was the glass, it didn't distort light through the edge like the gen did which is an immediate tell (and disregarding the "tell"ness I like the look of the gen glass). There's also the loose bezel but is easily fixed.

I'm afraid you'll have to educate us and explain it. Even sticking "Drunk 2.40pm" into the font of all knowledge, Google, produces nothing but random results.

Ah, just been released, and places seem to be adding £200 to the RRP, not subtracting it. Hey ho, nice find thought Tony

200USD?!?! If it was i'd buy one in a flash! 1299 CHF is £825 or $1400 PLUS taxes. I really like it, but I suspect that something with that strong a "style" would wear thin quickly and be sold in a year or two. I'll have to have a dig around and see if they'll do a decent discount on it, down to £600 or so and it'll be worth taking a gamble

Err? Don't see the relevance of the time? "Blind drunk" is more what I was thinking of, that and alcohol poisoning can make you blind. (only ever had alcohol poisoning twice in my life, 2lt bottle of Malibu caused it the first time and waaaay too much Pernod the second - what feels like a 10 day hangover isn't fun!)

A user thanks "Rudy4010" and you respond with "Thanks"? Thank you for pointing out that you (Gloricy) and Rudy4010 are the same person who has created multiple accounts, and you have so far posted 4 posts spamming a non TD website, plus what I suspect is your third account has spammed the same site once. Reported. Again.

SPAMMER. Do not trust this user or any links they post.

SPAMMERS both of you. Do not trust these users or any links they post.

Brand new user, advertising an unknown site? Of course we trust a completely unknown person who appears to have joined the forum to promote a website, that's not spammy at all!!!

After being that drunk I'm suprised you can still see anything at all! I'd be blind

I agree that the threads should probably be locked, there's a PM group for further discussion, but the information contained in the main thread shouldn't be removed. The forum doens't have a "Rogues Gallery" AFAIK so a locked thread with one post containing all the details of MD2020 should do.

Going by the complete lack of dirt on the footboards, no!

Things like this do change my view of how it was back in those days. I grew up with visions of people in small, cold houses, horse and cart transport, basic tools, and any machinery had to be vast as the tolerances coudn't be done that finely to make anything smaller. Then you see something like this and realise that they had the knowledge and skills and tools to make anything mechanical, but the 21stC inventions, production lines, modern metals and production techniques, etc, didn't exist so it was probably all hand made in individual pieces, one by one, by one person.

Inspired by another post from a member looking for a thin watch, I went on a Google meander through lots of thin watches. Of course a lot of the uber-expensive watches came up, some featuring micro rotor auto winders, etc. And those movements were as thin as 2.4mm - very impressive considering one of them has 405 parts in it. Then I came across this movement. Made in 1850. 164 YEARS ago. 1mm thick. http://www.horology.ru/en/workshop/golay.htm And I can't find any modern movements that get anywhere near!

Oh believe me I've read The Zigmeisters analysis and the two fixes for the problem, the addition of jewels or the easier way of polishing the surfaces and lubrication. (a pity there wasn't a long term follow up on how each worked - would have been interesting) I think part of why mine is still working is the watch winder holds the watches vertical, so there is no wear apart from in the jewels.

Secs @ 6 lasting 1 week to 1 month? One of my first reps was a daytona with secs @ 6. Still working fine, and been on a watch winder all its life. I've had it as long as I've been on RWG. It's stopped once when I was using the chrono, reset, all started again, never done it since.

Hehe. A few years ago four of us rode down through France down into Spain for a week and meandered back up. I distinctly remember riding over the Pyrenees, getting higher and higher and cooler and cooler and just so thankful! Of course had to go down the other side. Lovely twisty roads. Came down from the Pyrenees into this little village about 3pm. Absolutely NO ONE about anywhere. Stopped at the petrol station which did have someone there. They had an LED display board up on the roof - 3.something PM, 43 degrees C. Feck! And Urgh!! Luckily we tanked up and then the roads opened up which let the speed ramp up to slightly unsensible levels (ZX10R) and cool down to where we could see the road ahead through the sweat