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Nom nom nom Pam Sandwich!! Kidding aside, looks like it was a blast!

That...can't be right if it's quartz... Quartz should be off by like 1 second per month at the max.. FWIW My gen seamaster 1120 movements are -+2 seconds per day, my seamaster with the 2500 movement is off by -+3 seconds per day, my rollies with calibre 3135 movements are off by between -+ 3-5 seconds per day and my vintages are off by as little as -+1 to -+ 50

There were a few movements during WWII that had a 42,000 VPH rate if I recall... "humminbird" movements I think was the term...

Very nice...it's cool that you found a pocket watch movement with all the proper features!

The seagull 2892 clone was pulled apart on several gen forums and fared a hell of a lot better than the HZ 2836 clones... they're pretty good movements from everything I've read...

Was it good for you too?

By the way kids, NEVER say that that a bar to an attractive young woman....no amount of alcohol will help the beating you will receive and your Patek chrono's delicate column wheel movement could be damaged...

Sweet collection and I echo everyone else with my thoughts on the gold...tres classy my man! Enjoy!!

Now that you've piqued my curiosity...details on the watch/mvt?

@the world G2G we're going to have to put that to the test! (not that I doubt it but it'd be awesome to see!)

Exact Patek standards?... missing jewels, dirty, spotty finishing, crappy G. Hallmark... and FYI Hont (I think) already does this with Val23's etc in "vintage" Rolexes...such frankens have been around for quite some time... You could make your own "one off" movement and have it be "greater" than anything mass produced in China but that's really not the point...as RobbieG said, dealers aren't going to have this so it's a novelty more than a potential break in the PP rep market...

I should reiterate...and I think RobbieG and I are getting to the same point: That's is a Patek movement or maybe even (I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt it) a modified lemania of some sort independent of PP (worst case/weirdest scenario) but it is NOT a Chinese produced rep movement. I found the following image of a 1940's PP chrono...when I initally looked at your pic I thought it was a "dressed up" lower end Lemania but now I see it's just a poorly serviced (or non serviced-missing jewels, dirty, etc) PP movement. See ref below.

Well said... gotta love my FOREX friends I've brought them many a round (and sent a few gratitude checks- I know Robbie's done this too) due to some really sound investment advice from my "Forex fanatics" and trader friends... I agree on Citi and BoA to a point...in my earlier post about banks I said BoA is less risky- I should add the disclaimer that RELATIVE to Citi, BoA is less risky...but that's not saying too much in the banking industry at the moment! Still... I think there's a great opportunity to profit from many of the depressed share prices at the moment (Toyota and BoA as I've mentioned before) but regarding long term stability...don't think you're going to be holding some of these financials until you're 70 (and with some, don't think you'll be lucky enough to hold them for more than a year or two at the most)!

Excellent...

Freddy I think you need another Daytona...if something happens to one of them you might not have a full week's worth!!

That's not a "rep" movement... It may not be an actual Patek movement...but it's not a rep movement. Also- PAM's use a ETA base movement (most of them) and have relatively simple dials/cases/etc (in comparison to PP). It's been said before and I'll say it again: The issue you're going to run into with PP and VC is the fact that 1. Anyone who really "knows" the brand will call you out instantly due to the the high degree of finish and execution in the gen Patek and 2. Patek and VC don't use standard ETA movements so choices are somewhat limited (Seagull ST19, A21J, etc) neither of which are even remotely close to looking like or truly functioning like the gen (RobbieG did an excellent review of handwind column wheel movements and expounded upon some of the errors vis a vis reps including the subdial spacing on the Venus copies vs Lemania bases, etc.) VC and PP are also rolling out countermeasures to protect against counterfeiters and their best weapon is an exhibition caseback. In short- the only PP rep that's ever been remotely "close" to a gen (in relative terms) is the Nautilus/Aquanaut series. And that's the "cheap" Patek. Even the simple Calatrava is finished so minutely and perfectly that a CNC'd Asian case could never hope to compare. Don't believe me? Use a loupe or go to an AD and handle one yourself... the finish is spellbinding. More convincing PP reps WILL be made but certain movement and QC barriers must be overcome before that can happen. If they can't print the font on PAM dials correctly or make a CG properly, how do you expect them to match the detail of a 100K watch?

Yep...good try on the subtitle though.

Wonderful review and a great watch Morlock! Thanks for sharing !

:rofl: wow...excellent stuff!!! Good to know

Huh that's pretty cool!

BoA is less risky... Citi is over-leveraged and will most likely be split up, etc. That being said, I purchased a thousand shares @ 1.01/share... worst case scenario, I'm out ~$1K....best case...it goes over 1.01 per share and the gov't doesn't do anything with it for at least a year so I can save on the capital gains At this point I'm looking at index funds and sector leaders...things that have been beaten up and will more than likely recover... Toyota, BoA, FCX etc. and playing the options game as my hedge/insurance for the gains I already have this year.

Perform a search on those watches, read up on the reviews and dealer experiences, and then choose the one that makes you happy.

Pug, Beautiful watch and a sweet shot! The vintage Tudors are quite classy and that one does not disappoint! Can't wait to see what the new watch fund ends up funding! :::tabs back to Twitter :::

I agree with you in terms of it making more sense to just send you a replacement and keep you buying into the future...thankfully it looks like that's what's happening! best of luck!