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Neat trick! Thanks for sharing it. Now that I have a couple Ti watches it might come in handy.

Probably the biggest factor in price between the two is that the swiss 7750 movement is pretty expensive. That alone would make for a big jump in price over the usual $100-200 difference in models that use a 2824 or 2836 instead of an asian 21J. Take a look around online at the prices of gen swiss 7750 and 7753 movements and you'll see what I mean.

After seeing your generousity with the POTR auctions I have no doubt you would do this for someone if they were ever in need.

Wow congrats Stephane that 196 is truly a work of art. My 196 was actually my first PAM. This is a truly impressive piece. Just out of curiousity how do you tell if you have the old case? Not sure which one mine is since I bought it from a member. @kruzer Wow if you weren't really in the market to sell such a beauty but did just because a fellow member had such a interest in these then kudos to you. That's what this hobby should be about enjoying a piece but being willing to pass it along at some point. I was lucky enough to get both an old factory Seawolf and Chrono Avenger and in both cases I'm sure it was because the seller simply wanted them to go to someone who was going to cherish them and get excited about wearing them. Needless to say they both get quite a bit of wristime. I'd love to do a 188 or 196 project at some point.

This has me curious as well. Wouldn't mind picking up the RG ceramic.

I'm in the process of finishing getting the parts to build a nice 177 and stumbled across this one. Wow. Love how this one looks. That strap is killer.

I would be in for at least one of each. I had asked a rough idea of cost but just noticed some ballparks above my post. I would definatley be in.

Wow. They look great. I have yet to pick up a VC but I guess it's only a matter of time. Got any more pics?

I've spent time looking for one as well. The one FS here sold. I e-mailed Homer and while he does have Rolex boxes like that he doesn't have any of the PAM ones.

Hey DuDro you know I've looked at the B&M's a few times and they are starting to grow on me. Are they this close to gen? Might have to give one some thought. Especially if a DW is done at some point. Which ones do you have?

Come on Dave compared to a SA just about everything seems small except I guess another SA or a big Bentley. Even my Fiddy seems a bit small (at least height wise) compared to those two. @piratedzeus The BCE is just about the right size for an everyday watch. Not too tall. Not too wide. Mine get quite a bit of wrist time. I have about a 7 1/4" wrist and it's a perfect fit for me.

Homer is listed here on the forum in the sales section. I already e-mailed him and he doesn't have any more right now. Just a similar Rolex box. I might pick one of those up though.

There's actually one listed in the sales section but I can't get the seller to respond. Have sent several PM's and they are being read but not replied to.

I'm curious about this as well. Looks great BTW. I have a gen dial and hands on order for mine as well.

My god that's hideous. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

Haha. Nice one.

Great collection. Nice strap collection too. Like that 188. How much did the box end up costing?

Fantastic review Andy! Amazing how close the rep is to the gen with just a few mods. I need to get a DW and get the AR done on mine.

deltahoe I like how that tan sportivo looks on yours. Wonder how it would look on a white dial? I currently have a gen divers strap on my white dial but now I have a black dial avenger on the way and am thinking of swapping the divers strap to that and maybe putting a leather strap on the white one.

Family should always come first. We all know you'll get the orders done when you can. I guess if there are ones that don't understand that then oh well too bad for them.

Wow this is an oldie but goodie. Haven't had any luck finding a gen dial for mine but maybe I'll get lucky.

Friday was the Aquaracer: Friday night BK YM: Today Flav 111 on a SC Legend II:

I'm curious too. I'd love to get one of these boxes.

LOL. Figured that's where this one was going. I have a bunch of stuff that needs AR but the ones that I have that are done look fantastic. Have gotten more than few "did the glass fall out" comments. Glad the bent hands were easily fixed.

Hopefully Davidsen may get some Asian swan necks in at some point though it looks like even that is delayed. He has several things I'd like to buy if only he had the swan necks in stock. As for the 217 you might pick one up used or look to some other dealers to find one and then get one modded. I grabbed one that popped up last week with a swiss movement. You may have to go outside of the recommended dealers to find someone that has it in stock. Post a WTB as well. Good luck.