Finepics Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I don't know if this has been mentioned before but the Portuguese never came out in yellow gold. This is a dead give-away. And I'm not aware of any genuine white dial with black subdial Portuguese. One has to wonder why these rep manufacturers would attempt something that is so difficult to rep, when they could have repped the more desirable 3706 and it would have been easier to do so. And if you think this is a good rep, then you don't know very much. There are many many dead giveaways. The main feature of the genuine IWC Portuguese is the hands and dial, and this is precisely what cannot be accurately repped because of the materials used. It's the same reason why Pateks and JLCs can't be repped very well either, since a lot of expense goes into the dial and hands. Yes yes, the case is very accurate, but that is besides the point. The Portuguese is not an expensive IWC line because it has the best case. That's why rep makers should have tried the 3706 first since it doesn't have the exquisite dial and hands, which are impossible to rep convincingly. Wake up Dabom - when did you last look at IWC's models. I suggest you read this thread from the beginning and then go away and enter www.iwc.ch into your address bar. You won't find the panda model now but all this has already been discussed. Fuk me!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I am in for a silver dial, gold hands This one for me please: ...or I may take this one: Can I have a black strap on mine please(same as gen)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabom Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 umm... that's ROSE gold. The only yellow gold watches from IWC are from the PORTOFINO line, not the high end Portuguese line. Check out the close up pics of a gen 3714 - the hands are breath-taking. The rep on the other hand look a sickly yellow color with no depth to it. It's the same for replica Pateks - you just can't rep exquisite hands or dials. That's why rep makes should stick with easy ones like the 3706 and get it right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabom Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) Wake up Dabom - when did you last look at IWC's models. I suggest you read this thread from the beginning and then go away and enter www.iwc.ch into your address bar. You won't find the panda model now but all this has already been discussed. Fuk me!!!! tell me how you really feel finepics. so sue me for having an opinion. by the way, instead of making cryptic flippant statements like "go check www.iwc.ch", why don't you be specific, and I'll tell you specifically how you're wrong. At least we have someplace to begin a discussion. Unless of course, you just want to tell me how you feel. Edited August 26, 2006 by dabom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denisegold Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 IWC • IWC • Portuguese Chrono-Automatic • Size: 40.9mm Diameter • Automatic Movement • Chronograph Functions • 18K Yellow Gold Case • Convex Sapphire Crystal • Silvered Dial, Silver Subdials • Gold Arabic Numerals/Index Markers • Glossy Dark Brown Alligator Strap • Water Resistant to 30M • Model IW3714-16 Here you go, not rose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 umm... that's ROSE gold. The only yellow gold watches from IWC are from the PORTOFINO line, not the high end Portuguese line... Here's a gen: (looks yellow gold to me ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabom Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 IWC • IWC • Portuguese Chrono-Automatic • Size: 40.9mm Diameter • Automatic Movement • Chronograph Functions • 18K Yellow Gold Case • Convex Sapphire Crystal • Silvered Dial, Silver Subdials • Gold Arabic Numerals/Index Markers • Glossy Dark Brown Alligator Strap • Water Resistant to 30M • Model IW3714-16 Here you go, not rose! yes I know what the official literature says, but it's not yellow gold. It's an orange gold, whatever the heck they call it. Show me one picture of the 3714 that is properly lit that clearly shows it's yellow and I'll shut up. I've seen it in the flesh, I've got a bazillion pictures of it and it's not yellow gold. The rep on the other hand is clearly yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tracy Posted August 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Dabom, We did aleady discussed that issue long ago.... Please... we are in the order confirmation stage.... The list again..... and it's not too late to slip in.... 1. Me for 2 3. DuDro 4. Fletch512 5. Krusty Brand 6. Doodang 7. Disanim 8. Chicken Manny 9. Drop 10. Pam Man 11. D3706 12. Marsh 13. Love Panerai 14. FX Randy 15. Pugwash 16. Nguyendd 17. Finepics 18. Bravo 19. Denise Gold 20. Sql_pl 21. Rocket 754 22. Tourbillon 1801 23. Watch Watcher 24. Ryaku 25. Nate 922 26. Szumi 27. Okram 28. Halley If I missed anyone .. please let me know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) yes I know what the official literature says, but it's not yellow gold. It's an orange gold, whatever the heck they call it. Show me one picture of the 3714 that is properly lit that clearly shows it's yellow and I'll shut up. I've seen it in the flesh, I've got a bazillion pictures of it and it's not yellow gold. The rep on the other hand is clearly yellow. Link to gen in yellow gold (What it says): Brand: IWC Model: Portuguese Chrono-Automatic (White / 18kt Yellow Gold) Code: IW371416 Movement: Automatic Gender: Gents Size: 40.9mm Band: Leather Strap MSRP: $13,500 USD Price: $9,450 USD Description: The Portuguese seafarers, of course, were not interested only in navigation. For them, precision timing was also a priority, which is why it was essential that the Portuguese line also had room for chronographs. The Portuguese Chrono-Automatic is actually the little brother of the Portuguese Chrono-Rattrapante, whose imposing appearance has fascinated many a watch lover. The huge demand prompted the watchmakers from Schaffhausen to create the automatic chronograph. In the space made available by the lack of a split-seconds mechanism they inserted an automatic winding system. The 79350 calibre movement with its rate of 28,800 beats per hour guarantees the legendary precision that you would expect of a watch with a provenance in sea travel. Needless to say, the Portuguese Chrono-Automatic comes with the typical features of a Portuguese watch: embossed Arabic numerals, tapering swallow-style hands and recessed subdials for the minutes and seconds counters. Edited August 26, 2006 by Bravo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabom Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 okay - I checked my pictures again, and I may be wrong about the rose gold. However, it clearly is a different colour. It is not the "light yellow" of the rep. It is a darker yellow. Either that or the shape of the hands make it look darker. The point of the matter is that the rep hands look cheap and the colour looks off. My point really wasn't about the name of the colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denisegold Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 @dabom Had to be a [censored] but I have seen it in person and it is yellow gold. I don't think that anyone (rep) has yet to nail the color yellow solid. All I was saying is that they do make a yellow gold model when you said they did not produce one. I bow out now... But still in for a steel white/gold hands with black strap please!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finepics Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 yes I know what the official literature says, but it's not yellow gold. It's an orange gold, whatever the heck they call it. Show me one picture of the 3714 that is properly lit that clearly shows it's yellow and I'll shut up. I've seen it in the flesh, I've got a bazillion pictures of it and it's not yellow gold. The rep on the other hand is clearly yellow. If you are talking about the dial numbers being more yellow than RG then I would agree - sorry to rant at you but we all know they are not 100% perfect - they are reps not gens. But that very small difference is hardly noticeable and I have have been looking at the gens in my local watch store just today and they are not as RG as they look in the pics. The Panda dial model, which is certainly a genuine model although not in the current IWC catalogue, is the more accurate of the two but if you are worried about it or the sub dials not being as recessed as the gen then don't come in on the group buy. It's no use just adding insignificant comments to this thread when all this is about is establishing the numbers of people that want to buy this rep to bring the price down a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tracy Posted August 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I think the Gold Looks Fantastic.... ! Besides, it could be a Special order or Special Edition... The List Again..... 1. Me for 2 3. DuDro 4. Fletch512 5. Krusty Brand 6. Poodang 7. Dosanim 8. Chicken Manny 9. Drop 10. Pam Man 11. D3706 12. Marsh 13. Love Panerai 14. FX Randy 15. Jake48 16. Nguyendd 17. Finepics 18. Bravo 19. Denise Gold 20. Sql_pl 21. Rocket 754 22. Tourbillon 1801 23. Watch Watcher 24. Ryaku 25. Nate 922 26. Szumi 27. Okram 28. Halley If I missed anyone ..or if you want in......Please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake48 Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) Sorry for the late entry, I have been following this thread for a while and waiting on a quote from another dealer for the same watch. I have bought over 20 watches from this well known dealer and he couldn't even come close. Trust me - no one is going to beat this deal for a while. Count me in!!!!!! Kevin I think the Gold Looks Fantastic.... ! Besides, it could be a Special order or Special Edition... The List Again..... 1. Me for 2 3. DuDro 4. Fletch512 5. Krusty Brand 6. Doodang 7. Disanim 8. Chicken Manny 9. Drop 10. Pam Man 11. D3706 12. Marsh 13. Love Panerai 14. FX Randy 15. Pugwash 16. Nguyendd 17. Finepics 18. Bravo 19. Denise Gold 20. Sql_pl 21. Rocket 754 22. Tourbillon 1801 23. Watch Watcher 24. Ryaku 25. Nate 922 26. Szumi 27. Okram 28. Halley If I missed anyone ..or if you want in......Please let me know. Edited August 26, 2006 by jake48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Okay now,.... Who is going to Flake out here.... Me. The end of the month when I'll be paid and stuff is next week. I don't want to hold you guys back, so count me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ck986 Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 The hands on the Panda model are really done well. I would say they are very close, I went to the AD and checked a few gens today. The dial is as good as a rep is going to get. Maybe if there is interest the rep factories will come out with another generation. I think you will all be surprised at how well the dial is made. The watch has nice presence there is a lot of sparkle from the numerals and polished parts of the case. The only major flaws are the sub dials not being as recessed on the panda, 4 small tic marks instead of 3, and the polished case back. I think that the numerals are raised a bit more on the gen too, but that is just being nitpicky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovepanerai Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I think the Gold Looks Fantastic.... ! Besides, it could be a Special order or Special Edition... The List Again..... 1. Me for 2 3. DuDro 4. Fletch512 5. Krusty Brand 6. Poodang 7. Dosanim 8. Chicken Manny 9. Drop 10. Pam Man 11. D3706 12. Marsh 13. Love Panerai 14. FX Randy 15. Jake48 16. Nguyendd 17. Finepics 18. Bravo 19. Denise Gold 20. Sql_pl 21. Rocket 754 22. Tourbillon 1801 23. Watch Watcher 24. Ryaku 25. Nate 922 26. Szumi 27. Okram 28. Halley If I missed anyone ..or if you want in......Please let me know. you gotta love that 13 is my lucky number and my birthdate....sorry for the meaningless post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yossarian Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Is it too late to say "me too please!"? I'll have the silver with gold hands version on the brown strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt.watch.obsessive Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Hi Richard, I want in to. I'll also PM you. Thanks for organizing this. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minuterepeater Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 I'm in for the gold hand version - put me down for one. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryaku Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Jeez guys...you're such in a hurry... I'd like some more info from Silix about their previous shipments to my country (someone had watches seized with em)....moreover i'm still unsure about colour. I sent Silix a mail for clearing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 okay - I checked my pictures again, and I may be wrong about the rose gold. However, it clearly is a different colour. It is not the "light yellow" of the rep. It is a darker yellow. Either that or the shape of the hands make it look darker. The point of the matter is that the rep hands look cheap and the colour looks off. My point really wasn't about the name of the colour. yellow gold...rose gold...yellow gold...roese gold...yellow gold....rose gold you make me crazy why not ask a iwc expert? ....me Referenz 371402 is rosegold (call also redgold...pinkgold etc) Referenz 371416 is yellow gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denisegold Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 @tourbillon1801-glad to know someone knows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest avitt Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 Just to add to the frenzy...Just wanted to let you know that I received my silver/gold version from Eddie today...And this thing is spectacular! I can confirm that this one also has concentric circles on the subdials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bravo Posted August 26, 2006 Report Share Posted August 26, 2006 (Just for info) Brand: IWC Series: Portuguese Chrono Automatic Reference: IW371401 Movement: Automatic, IWC C.79240 (base ETA 7750), 31 jewels, 28,800 vph, approximate power reserve of 44 hours. Functions: Hour, minute, subsidiary second, chronograph. Dial: Silvered dial Case: Stainless steel case (Ø40.9mm, height 12.45mm, weight with strap 80 grams), sapphire crystal, water-resistant to 30 meters. Watchband: Black crocodile leather strap. Bravo says "Any chance of a black strap on mine, please?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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