Is this forum "free" or not?

[Demsey]

J.H. TAP DANCEING CHRIST.

I'd trade 'dancing girl' for a gif. of that.

[NORing]

More power to you! Frame the bracelet, put it on the wall and name it "Cogita ante salis."

No comment on my latin humor? I was very pleased with my post here....strange

[cornerstone]

I would become an ultra super duper supporter if there was a button to turn all of your softcore off on RWG.

There is such a button. Avatars and signatures can be turned off in your forum options.

[lanikai]

Ahhh what the heck.. these threads serve a purpose.. at times ..imo.. we need to air our differences.. and bring to the surface what our goals are

so a cleansing can take place.. if not we misconstrue alot of what is going on.. we are here to support this community.. not for self gain.. the watches are our passion; the community is our home, the 2 go hand in hand.. nuff said.. we do what we do..

AC/Lani

[P4GTR]

Don't even get me started on how sexual RWG has become. All of these .gifs of women stripping and [censored] flashing on your screen. You know some of us have computers in the living quarters of our house and kids and WIVES?

Seriously. Agreed! Am I the only one getting laid on a regular basis? I love women, but whats this need to slather every crevice of avitars and signatures with vagina pounding nuances on a timepiece website? I want to show my work buddies, boss, fiance watch [censored] without them thinking i'm a [censored] creep! I want to be able to browse RWG at work. On my break of course.

I logged into RWG 1.1 and honestly, I think that place gives pay porn sites a run for its money. Want a sure fire way to get fired from your job? Browse RWG 1.1 for 10 minutes with avitars and sig's displayed.

And yeah, I turn off avitars and signatures and all that. Truth is, I don't want to have to do that here. I dont want to have to read RWG in codemode, where my screen looks like this-

funny it's identical to my screen .. exactly..

its a screenshot. Really cool if you've never done it before. Just hit the Prt Scr (print screen) button on your keyboard. Its up top right, a little past the F12 key. Now paste into your paint program. Its a picture of your screen! voila!

[Demsey]

Am I the only one getting laid on a regular basis?

If you mean; "Am I still merely the engaged guy here?" Yes. 'Dancing girl' stays

No comment on my latin humor? I was very pleased with my post here....strange

Oh, was that Latin? I thought you may just have passed out and crashed your forehead on the keyboard........

[AllergyDoc]

Will we receive support from everyone that uses the forum??

No, you won't. You never will unless you make support compulsory.

The discussion is about how the non-supporters are treated and the general attitude towards them. Corgi's point is valid and is emblematic of my original point. (I noticed that myself but lacked the computer know-how to point it out.)

dunno,.... but the fact remains.... we "all" should be responsible for supporting "our community".. else the responsibility falls on the "elitist" .. if you want to be fair in labeling those who do support the rest of the community..then it has to go both ways me thinks .. do these members block out anyone else that chooses not to help ?? I don't think so...

I'm not bright enough to figure out what your point is here. Who's labeling supporters "elitists"? I personally haven't labeled the supporters, as a whole, anything.

It seems to me you're feeling picked on. I don't know how things are organized here, but perhaps raising the dough to keep the lights on is your responsibility.

I apologize if my remarks seem directed at you, Lani. They weren't. You do more for this board than anyone, at least to my eyes. It's almost like you're carrying the forum on your back right now, what with your detailed reviews, stunning photography, and friendly banter.

But... I have to say there is a definite tone running the board in general, and certainly in your post I'm replying to, that people who use the board without supporting are not welcome.

Yes, noobs get their questions answered. I personally haven't felt unwelcome. Ever. But others have. I know because I run into them on other fora.

This place should be the king of the hill. All the true rep brains and innovators are here. This place should be rocking! But it isn't, because it has the reputation of being unfriendly. Like it or not.

If ya'll are okay with this, nothing needs to be done, I guess. But if you, we, (I've ponied up now), want this place to hop again, something different has to done.

[lanikai]

No, you won't. You never will unless you make support compulsory.

The discussion is about how the non-supporters are treated and the general attitude towards them. Corgi's point is valid and is emblematic of my original point. (I noticed that myself but lacked the computer know-how to point it out.)

I'm not bright enough to figure out what your point is here. Who's labeling supporters "elitists"? I personally haven't labeled the supporters, as a whole, anything.

It seems to me you're feeling picked on. I don't know how things are organized here, but perhaps raising the dough to keep the lights on is your responsibility.

I apologize if my remarks seem directed at you, Lani. They weren't. You do more for this board than anyone, at least to my eyes. It's almost like you're carrying the forum on your back right now, what with your detailed reviews, stunning photography, and friendly banter.

But... I have to say there is a definite tone running the board in general, and certainly in your post I'm replying to, that people who use the board without supporting are not welcome.

Yes, noobs get their questions answered. I personally haven't felt unwelcome. Ever. But others have. I know because I run into them on other fora.

This place should be the king of the hill. All the true rep brains and innovators are here. This place should be rocking! But it isn't, because it has the reputation of being unfriendly. Like it or not.

If ya'll are okay with this, nothing needs to be done, I guess. But if you, we, (I've ponied up now), want this place to hop again, something different has to done.

doc to blame slow traffic on the supporter role is too easy.. there are a lot of variables.. even if we had no usage fee to pay.. that would not increase traffic.. all the fora's are slow right now... unfriendly?? point out "how"..maybe we can look into solutions.. rather than discuss just the problem.. cause if no one can come up with any solid solutions except trash talking .. and it does not matter if it seems to be done in a sophisticated manner or with proper grammar.. shit is shit .. no matter how you sling it.... it is what it is...

So my challenge to you and those who have put down the way we, or I or anyone rounds up support for this fora .. what is the solution.. Corgi you stop in and have a lot to say.. .. but have you stuck it out and tried to do whatever you can to make things right ?? it is very, very easy to critique something that others have tried to build.. so are you gonna help us build or just tear us down ??.. You can walk away and come back in 6 months to critique us again.. but what about the members who strive to make this a better community ?? there are many whom everyday do what they can to make this a great place for watches.. none of us do this for riches.. most of the time gratitude comes in the form of bashing.. posting private PM's..selfish .. if you ask me..

Are you really thinking of the betterment of the community .. for those of you whom choose to critique instead of getting involved in the process ???

There are many, many more than myself, who do what they can for this place.. above and beyond.. I am but 1.

Elitists.. Doc.. I was being obtuse .. calling the members who give freely and not for anything but support.. I would call them the elitist.. not the ones that want or are imagined to get preferential treatment... Dems is joking of course..!!! he does have funny dry humor you have to admit.. to take it literally would not be correct.. me thinks.

if you think that[edit]rank and file members are not welcome.. all I can say is that is "your thinking" not mine or others here.. we do conduct everything with passion.. that is what makes RWG.. I'm not saying your imagining it.. interpretation is in the individuals minds eye... and what we are here to do is support one another and keep the lights on.. without that we won't have a fora to come to.. if I am a necessary evil then I need to keep doing what I do..

If you and the community feel I am more of a detriment in what I do.. then I will gladly step down..the reality for me is .. it is my responsibility that "I" accepted, to raise the funds to keep us here.. but without the members who support this line of thought.. it would be in vain.. and if this has created a downward spiral at RWG then point the finger at me and only me.

buy a rep.. do the review.. and tell me it is not for ALL.. and you have not given back to ALL members.. donate a watch for raffle.. and tell me you have not given back to all members... answer 15 pms a day for ALL members regarding info.. and tell me we cater to just the few.. and no one else feels welcomed..

if you can do all this day in and day out.. then you have grounds for a real argument .. a company I worked for once.. had a "wear my shoes" day.. where we would perform the task of other departments.. enlightening,.. to say the least.. "wear my shoes" was something that a lot of us took as a good lesson when it came to critiquing others that we could not "feel"..

so the next time you buy a rep.. spend a couple of days taking pics and researching ... posting... and come back and tell me you did it just for supporters.. I say this not with animosity... but with sincere faith that you will not feel that you have done it just for supporters..conversely we need to keep building funds for our usage.. maybe the means justify the end??

AC/Lani

Edit ADD..my whole rambling leads to one point.. if you don't like the way things are being done .. or the direction the fora is taking.. get involved in making this a better place than you feel it is.. walk away and you "quit" .. get involved in a "positive" way and you actually can do something about your feelings..

We need solutions.. not more problems..

[Gatchaman]

Sorry, man. But, with the reputation you've managed to muscle on here, I just had to show that you were wrong (heck, we both were wrong!)...so I posted the PM'ed messages. I just wanted to put the record straight. That's all.

Donate the bracelet. Jee/Silix is sending me a superb example of one...(as well as a IWC 3717 v1.0).

Well dems.. Gatchaman can [censored] off for all I care.. to share personal pm's on the board is going way over the line..

I have all 3 bracelets... I did order and pay out of pocket for a Yuki's riveted with the clasp that he scanned and sent.. sorry this is no longer about being a supporter....you'll get your 30 usd back a "free" VIP status .. and your attitude of genuine quality for rep prices

Gatcha if you feel better spreading my personal messages on the board it really shows what kind of spineless [censored] you are..

so what does that prove?.. I "was" going to follow through with my promise,.. and as I said I would be out of pocket.. I didn't mention 100 usd after the fact.. sorry if I didn't move fast enough for you.. but you would of gotten a nicer bracelet that originally promised... and I did offer to refund your money personally.

[redwatch]

Sorry, man. But, with the reputation you've managed to muscle on here, I just had to show that you were wrong (heck, we both were wrong!)...so I posted the PM'ed messages. I just wanted to put the record straight. That's all.

Sorry GM, but I need to take issue with the way you worded that phrase. I think it is just ridiculous to state that Lani has "muscled" any reputation here. Lani gives more dedication and time to this fora than most and I for one truly appreciate his reviews and insights on watch collecting. I have asked him on several occasions to tell us more about one of his watches, or show some macros and he has done it on every occasion. In fact, his review on the Swiss vs Asian SuperOcean SteelFish was what made me decide to buy one of my favorite watches. He didn't muscle anything IMO. He's just an all round nice guy. Just my 0.02

[lanikai]

Sorry, man. But, with the reputation you've managed to muscle on here, I just had to show that you were wrong (heck, we both were wrong!)...so I posted the PM'ed messages. I just wanted to put the record straight. That's all.

Donate the bracelet. Jee/Silix is sending me a superb example of one...(as well as a IWC 3717 v1.0).

that I've managed to "muscle".. again I say .. piss off .. yup I was wrong for offering any help to you..you'll have your 30 usd refunded .. do what you do best .. whine

you will be a distant thought in my mind come morning.. so no worries george.

[Gatchaman]

And, since we are loosely talking about avatars and such...

I took that photo of Mars with a 6" Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope and a webcam.

And, the .gif is an animation of the Fermi-Walker Transport as used in General Relativity.

[lanikai]

@Doc.. know that I am sincere when I say.. get involved.. I'm neither being obtuse not sarcastic.. but we do need members to not only be supporters.. but to get involved with getting on the raffle team.. we have members that are involved above and beyond know.. when I was in the hospital the first thing I did when they wheeled me into ICU was to call Ubi and ask that he take over the raffle..Toad conscientiously, chimes in on the raffle thread due to our time zones..

there a lot of members who pm me with offers of watches or donations to keep us here..

there is so much more we can do .. but need the manpower to do it..

anyone that wants to get involved.. TJ.. is working on a rep for donation.. there is alot of things going on that you are not aware of.. what your see on the boards is just the tip of the iceberg..

[fakemaster]

I agree. You guys have tons of manpower to tap into whenever you need it.

Edited December 11, 2009 by fakemaster

[lanikai]

I agree. You guys have tons of manpower to tap into whenever you need it.

No we don't

there are those who will critique, but not want to get involved in the work.. to much hassle..

so does this mean your volunteering ???

[Stephane]

Sorry, man. But, with the reputation you've managed to muscle on here, I just had to show that you were wrong (heck, we both were wrong!)...so I posted the PM'ed messages. I just wanted to put the record straight. That's all.Donate the bracelet. Jee/Silix is sending me a superb example of one...(as well as a IWC 3717 v1.0).

That is pure class, congrats.

[mastrmindalliance]

Has something changed recently with in the upgrade fees? The amount I paid only gave me six months... But just checking it now it appears the same amount is now good for 12 months. Am I missing something here?

[NORing]

Is this some kind of kleanup we do every year? I must have missed last years! As an observer and reader of the forum, I can not say that I have felt that anyone has been treated more or less than others. I think this forum is one of the most helpfull and kind forums I have ever been on. But I have never demanded anything, and I will never do either. I might ask questions and I'm happy when someone answers me.

One lesson I think most have learned, that have been into rep watches for at least a couple of years. Things take time, thats how it is. The dealers are not retailers we can visit whenever we like. If something takes half a year or one year to complete, then that's what it takes. Dealers can improve, I'm not saying to put up with insane deliveries, but to be fair this is not really trademark products. And one can choose whom to buy from. When I order a watch I do not start asking questions before at least 25 days has gone by. If one can not live with this, then I suggest one starts collecting something more available, like flowers in the wood or rocks at the beach. If someone privatly states that he will help you, then there are no deadlines if you ask me.

When someone is active on a forum and gets involved, it's up to you to follow up and do the same kind of work to show a different side of the coin if you feel the need. By just criticizing, there are no lessons learned. If you feel that something needs to be showed differently, then show me the difference. You can however compliment someone of their work without the need to explain. Most of the 23205 members have different backgrounds and/or different cultures, but everyone knows what a compliment is.

I was not going to get involved, but I just feel people are expecting a little bit too much sometimes. It's just my 0.114546225NOK (0.02 U.S. dollars = 0.114546225 Norwegian kroner)

[P4GTR]

I started 6,437 off topic threads this year, and the sum total of replies were about 16. 12 of which were from Dems. Its pretty sad this go's 6 pages long.

I even tried insulting you guys and that didn't work, but this whine festival go's on for 6 pages? What am I doing wrong? Please. Tell me.

And if theres something else I can do besides post, and donate. I'm all ears.

I agree. You guys have tons of manpower to tap into whenever you need it.

I dig your whole one liner thing you have going on. Really, I do. I just don't get what you're saying, or if its in gest.

[Demsey]

I even tried insulting you guys and that didn't work, but this whine festival go's on for 6 pages? What am I doing wrong? Please. Tell me.

Have you tried calling the Pope a Nazi? That's usually good for 5-6 pages. If the traffic hadn't picked up over the last few months I was going to start an OT thread myself. "President Obama; I would probably like him more if he only got C's at Harvard too".

No, but, I've been at this a while, if you really want to stir the puddin' all you have to do (and this works in the non-virtual too) just hold a mirror up to a person. They hate that. If you insult someone and the insult is baseless, they won't care. If they go off, you'll know you hit their war nerve. Have you even read my last four posts on 1.1?

Two truths;

We see and despise in others, those traits we see and despise most in ourselves.

Put you, and your exact moral, intellectual, and physical double in a locked room with a gun. How many walk out?

None. It will be a murder/suicide.

I can't believe 'Corgi' doesn't like my signature gif. It's hot.

[P4GTR]

Have you tried calling the Pope a Nazi? That's usually good for 5-6 pages. If the traffic hadn't picked up over the last few months I was going to start an OT thread myself. "President Obama; I would probably like him more if he only got C's at Harvard too".

No, but, I've been at this a while, if you really want to stir the puddin' all you have to do (and this works in the non-virtual too) just hold a mirror up to a person. They hate that. If you insult someone and the insult is baseless, they won't care. If they go off, you'll know you hit their war nerve. Have you even read my last four posts on 1.1?

Two truths;

We see and despise in others, those traits we see and despise most in ourselves.

Put you, and your exact intellectual, moral and physical double in a locked room with a gun. How many walk out?

None. It will be a murder/suicide.

haha it would be a love fest. I'd do me baby!

[Demsey]

haha it would be a love fest. I'd do me baby!

Sure and it would be the best you ever had, but then you'd shoot yourself and your other self for seducing you, unearthing your latent homosexual tendencies? You couldn't let that leave the room. I'm telling you, no one would get out alive. Maybe me. Because;

Roses are red

Violets are blue

I'm a schizophrenic

and so am I

[slickdick]

Put you, and your exact moral, intellectual, and physical double in a locked room with a gun. How many walk out?

None. It will be a murder/suicide.

C'mon Jeanny, quit livin' on dreams.

If it where possible i'd have the rep factory clone me a zillion times and takeover the world.

[P4GTR]

Sure and it would be the best you ever had, but then you'd shoot yourself and your other self for seducing you, unearthing your latent homosexual tendencies? You couldn't let that leave the room. I'm telling you, no one would get out alive. Maybe me. Because;

Roses are red

Violets are blue

I'm a schizophrenic

and so am I

But doing it with myself is actually asexual, a behavior I'm A-ok with! Wouldn't be the first time, and it wouldn't be the last!

How did we get here.

Oh, Dems became active. Makes perfect sense now.

[Demsey]

But doing it with myself is actually asexual, a behavior I'm A-ok with!

And yet you'd still leave your socks lying on the floor. A shootable offense. My wife says.