gran Posted February 10, 2010 Report Posted February 10, 2010 Gen movement is the only way Considering that the gen is 6000
Toadtorrent Posted February 10, 2010 Report Posted February 10, 2010 It's been like this for years. People are still buying it. Don't expect it to change anytime soon.
gran Posted February 10, 2010 Report Posted February 10, 2010 I opted for a gen movement for longevity. The 3714 was a watch I'd always wanted to pick up, but the modified A7750 powering the rep was one that I was cautious of. When concepta offered a genuine 79350 for this watch, I knew this was the solution I was waiting for. If this movement is good enough for IWC to stick in their Portu Chrono and charge $6k for it, it's more than sufficient for my needs! it sure is beautiful ...but wasent that awfully expensive
glennpenn Posted February 11, 2010 Author Report Posted February 11, 2010 Are all Portu models from the same factory?
ubiquitous Posted February 11, 2010 Report Posted February 11, 2010 it sure is beautiful ...but wasent that awfully expensive A bit pricey, but not terribly bad compared to some of my other projects I've still got a few more items to go on this one before I'll call it completed, however
mbjoer Posted February 17, 2010 Report Posted February 17, 2010 (edited) A second hand Gen can be had for about $3,000. Such a watch is likely to keep its value pretty well and will be possible to sell anywhere. For better or worse, even the best Franken versions will remain reps. I have a problem paying about 1/3 of the price of a Gen for a rep. Even though it looks like Concepta makes a beautiful and workable one, that is just too much relative to the Gen. Edited February 17, 2010 by mbjoer
ubiquitous Posted February 17, 2010 Report Posted February 17, 2010 For some people, it's more about the fun in building a project than the money...
concepta Posted February 17, 2010 Report Posted February 17, 2010 A second hand Gen can be had for about $3,000. Such a watch is likely to keep its value pretty well and will be possible to sell anywhere. For better or worse, even the best Franken versions will remain reps. I have a problem paying about 1/3 of the price of a Gen for a rep. Even though it looks like Concepta makes a beautiful and workable one, that is just too much relative to the Gen. 3K? It must be stolen then ;-) Second hand prices are around 4500-5000 USD on Ebay, WJUS etc.
ubiquitous Posted February 17, 2010 Report Posted February 17, 2010 Most pre-owned 3714's I've seen offered are around the $5k USD range for SS that I've seen.
LeSentier Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 Yesterday evening my 3714 died on my wrist, after wearing it for 3 days didn't expect this to happen after that short time...guess I will have to contact concepta... J
LeSentier Posted February 19, 2010 Report Posted February 19, 2010 PS: the Portus are real stunning watches, but the movement with its extra gears is such a piece of sh.t... Stick to a gen, or build a franken!
woody Posted February 20, 2010 Report Posted February 20, 2010 I opted for a gen movement for longevity. The 3714 was a watch I'd always wanted to pick up, but the modified A7750 powering the rep was one that I was cautious of. When concepta offered a genuine 79350 for this watch, I knew this was the solution I was waiting for. If this movement is good enough for IWC to stick in their Portu Chrono and charge $6k for it, it's more than sufficient for my needs! R, I did not know you have a 3714 project going too. what parts do you have left to complete the project? gen dials and hands again ala 3717? congrats man, that is a stunning gen movement. time for me to hit on concepta on PM!
oberblender Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 waiting for my franken concepta too at the moment.... the graphite treatment didn't work for me... stopped again... gen movement is the best option I guess.
glennpenn Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Posted February 21, 2010 What do you mean "what for"? Apparently it does not work....! Should be a good enough reason...... You are right, people are bying it. However if it was WORKING, there is reason to believe that even more people would by it. Not very unlike other products...:-) G
FxrAndy Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 The rep makers dont care if the product works, or if it could be better, just do they sell, and these have sold, and with out the knowledge that it is flawed on the open internet they continue to sell, so why should they change it.
glennpenn Posted February 21, 2010 Author Report Posted February 21, 2010 wow, I actually thought it was obvious... If something works it sells even more! As all business they are in it for the profit, so if improving the product would mean increased turnover I can
FxrAndy Posted February 21, 2010 Report Posted February 21, 2010 There are many that work fine, this one does not, Ziggy wrote a great review of this and what would improve it, the seconds at 3 was great improvement on the modification design but it has not been applied to this, why dont you start a campaign of emailing all the suppliers to get this improved, but personally i don't think they care.
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