watcher Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Today was a special day as it is the first time I have sent a watch to a modder and it returned looking very beautiful indeed!!! This is a V1 3717 with a far superior dial to the V3 I showed last week. Also the case is better too in it's profiling. The bezel is not as tall and the lugs are tighter with my gen bracelet fitted. It received a Lume job plus Cheif's AR which in the pics you will see how that compares to Taka's crystal! and also has an IWC 79320 movement powering it's little body! with a gen date wheels too. Vac has done a beautiful job on the whole watch and I would have no hesitation in recommending him to anyone.Thankyou Vac!!! Now for some quick pics, more to follow later this week. The AR is chalk and cheese. I thought Vac had forgotten the crystal!! The Heart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Looks great! Enjoy. PS, What is a Taka crystal? Does it have AR on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelizer Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Congrats to this beauty w! A real stunner! Looking forward to see mooooooore pics.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted March 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Taka's crystal does indeed have AR! but not in your league Cheif!!! It did'nt look bad until I sat yours next to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 So Taka's crystal has the standard rep AR on it, I take it? There's definitely nothing like the first time getting an AR mod done!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvn Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 So Taka's crystal has the standard rep AR on it, I take it? There's definitely nothing like the first time getting an AR mod done!! According to the site, Taka's crystal has his own custom double AR (not factory one). I ordered one and it is on its way to me. hey P. It is a beautiful gen iwc you got there. It is definitely a keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwatch Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Stunning 3717!!! Definitely on the list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flilow06 Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 WOW... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 she's a beaut! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvinado Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 tak's ar utilises the smae reflective index as the gen iwc crystal, he can get it colorless if you want to, but for the iwc he chooses a gen like color instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 tak's ar utilises the smae reflective index as the gen iwc crystal, he can get it colorless if you want to, but for the iwc he chooses a gen like color instead. The color tint might be the same but the gen IWC is much less reflective... I honestly thought this was rep AR. Colorless isn't possible. That'd mean absolute zero reflections. In any event, if you like it, that's all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alvinado Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 yeah, it looks a little reflective , but in real life it is much better. the double AR coating that he offers is almost on par with your offerings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchman888 Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) So, I see thicker markers at 3, 6, 9 on the Taka watch (V3). Why on earth would "the factory" move from a better dial (v1) to a LESS ACCURATE repro (V3)?? Not logical. I think TomHorn said the lume is more accurate on V3 - lume only at 3,6,9 & not around the dial. I cannot for the life of me understand why later versions of 3717 are less accurate. So they improved the lume but made the dial less realistic - a mixed bag or what? The other big question is why the V1 looks gray vs black on the V3. Is that an optical illusion due to the AR or are they really that different? Gray is pretty attractive, but as far as I know, incorrect. The chief AR is just awesomely awesome - looks like it was left off for the pix! Watchman888 Edited March 10, 2010 by Watchman888 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 The dial is black on the franken but the strong AR and halogen lights make it appear grey. The V1 has the nearest finish to the gen but is not precise. The V3 dial is not very good to be honest even though the correct parts are lumed as in the V1. I think Vac may have slimmed down the markers for me. As to AR, the Taka crystal does have a more gen appearance but more reflection than Cheif's but Cheif's is stronger than the gen IWC coating. Somewhere in between would be perefect. I do think the watch is missing something without the blue hue but it does show the dial beautifully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 (edited) So, I see thicker markers at 3, 6, 9 on the Taka watch (V3). Why on earth would "the factory" move from a better dial (v1) to a LESS ACCURATE repro (V3)?? Not logical. I think TomHorn said the lume is more accurate on V3 - lume only at 3,6,9 & not around the dial. I cannot for the life of me understand why later versions of 3717 are less accurate. So they improved the lume but made the dial less realistic - a mixed bag or what? The other big question is why the V1 looks gray vs black on the V3. Is that an optical illusion due to the AR or are they really that different? Gray is pretty attractive, but as far as I know, incorrect. The chief AR is just awesomely awesome - looks like it was left off for the pix! Watchman888 Actually, what I said was the lume is incorrect on the v2, but correct on the v1 and v3. The dial, IMO is best on the v1 mainly due to its texture/finish. As for the color of the dial, lighting and AR can definitely affect what you see in pics. The factories often make some features worse while improving others in subsequent releases, it happens all the time ... you just have to pick your poison, and do mods when necessary ... Edited March 10, 2010 by tomhorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 V1 dial is quite close to gen! Here's my watch when it had the V1 dial: And now with gen dial: Texture/color is a bit off, but V1 is (in my opinion) definitely the closest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvn Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Ubi - If you want to go all out here is the link to gen bracelet for sale in timezone in case you or anyone else interested: http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t=tree&goto=4982373&rid=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactower Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Actually, what I said was the lume is incorrect on the v2, but correct on the v1 and v3. The dial, IMO is best on the v1 mainly due to its texture/finish. As for the color of the dial, lighting and AR can definitely affect what you see in pics. The factories often make some features worse while improving others in subsequent releases, it happens all the time ... you just have to pick your poison, and do mods when necessary ... Hi Tom, If I have the option to source a V1 dial from Josh for my V3 IWC, how much of a difference would there be? Is it worth the wait and effort in your opinion? Is it a matter of how sharp the text is, the markers? Thanks! M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted March 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 850 is too expensive! I paid 650 for mine in near perfect condition. The difference is amazing with a gen bracelet but be aware the end links need trimming to fit a rep case. Not a lot but little on the lower lip so it fits flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Truly stunning watcher. Another HC-franken added to your collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onzenuub Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Wow, its a beauty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimme Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 You mf's are crazy! V1 vs V3, Gen vs Rep. Lets buy a rep for $300, send it all over the world to get AR, buy a gen dial for $600, a gen movement for $$$ more, then $$$ more for a gen bracelet, and what do you get? A rep watch that won't fool the same person who wasn't fooled by your $300 watch... but you will fool everybody else without the need to spend $$$$ on the improvements. Bah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 You mf's are crazy! V1 vs V3, Gen vs Rep. Lets buy a rep for $300, send it all over the world to get AR, buy a gen dial for $600, a gen movement for $$$ more, then $$$ more for a gen bracelet, and what do you get? A rep watch that won't fool the same person who wasn't fooled by your $300 watch... but you will fool everybody else without the need to spend $$$$ on the improvements. Bah Whoever said the object of the game (hobby) was to fool others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaree Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 My favorite part about getting my rep watch modded is participating the process. So when I wear it, I can feel I have an unique piece that is made based on my spec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prb Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Well said Chief! Love the watch, not the brand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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