ubiquitous Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I knew this would be a topic of good debate I will agree- The styling is quite.... Dated. But, there's just something about it that's intriguing to me. I still prefer the Royal Oak and the Overseas, but the common denominator amongst the 3 is Genta's design. Factor in the IWC 222, and you have a classic quartet. Perhaps that is the appeal to me. Doc- Is that River's TW version that you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Here's mine. My wife usually doesn't notice or care about my reps but she likes this one a lot. I have exactly the same one as thedoctor, mine was from river. It is different in person, and really appears small compared to my other watches because of the case height. But it is one of the most accurate reps. in fit and finish out there with the crown being the only noticeable flaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Only the micro-rotor is nice on the 2006 version the dial is pitiful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 I have exactly the same one as thedoctor, mine was from river. It is different in person, and really appears small compared to my other watches because of the case height. But it is one of the most accurate reps. in fit and finish out there with the crown being the only noticeable flaw. Hmmmm... I think I prefer the crown on the rep, as it appears to be easier to handle and work with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HauteHippie Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) I dunno what to think? On the one hand... I like it, but on the other, I don't? Almost so ugly it's lovely. For some reason this one has been growing on me. But I still think prefer the Royal Oak. Well, as long as you're asking, I've always found it AND the royal oak to both be hideous. The Nautilus is just blah to me and the Royal Oak is unrefined and blocky looking. Different strokes for different folks. The Overseas, though, is a cool looking watch IMO. It's bold, hip and unique without being flashy. Edited September 15, 2006 by chieftang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubFrog Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Well, I've kept this to myself for some time, but I'm with Tang...ugly watch. Both Nautilus AND the Royal Oak. Blocky and 70's looking. Might as well get a foot long winged collar shirt and tight bellbottom pants if you're going to wear either of those. PP Boutique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted September 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Hmmmm... I must be more of a product of the 60's and 70's than I thought! Born in 77... I fancy and appreciate: 60's and 70's Rolex 70's design watches (RO, PP, etc) 60's and 70's Marvel Silver Age funny books 60's and 70's Ferrari Daytonas Of course, I like modern stuff too... Modern Rolex (especially the Daytonas) Modern 70's design watches (RO and Naut) Modern Ferrari (any) 2x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Tracy Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Well.. after years of looking, which has turned many of my first impressions of let's say for instance, Breitling, Panerai, and even Iwc, from wonder at how anyone could find them beautiful,.. to finally understanding, then loving them... AP has remained outside of that loop.... It remains to me the auto mechanic's offering to the world of timekeeping.... which to me is the wrong as I find time circular, spherical, smooth,.. not nuts and bolts... As for the Patek.. I received one in trade from another member and immediately, holding it at arms length with thumb and forefinger, placed the offending object into a bag to re-trade it at my earliest convenience....it was the Anti-Patek, that had somehow eluded authorities and was now well into it's mission to destroy the fine Patek name.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) Just my opinion - I thing it is ugly, cmpletely lacking any charm whatever. But I understand that PP are about to release a "new" Nautilus... so let us hope for better things to come. I wonder how long it will be before the rep makers launch their versions of the new Nautilus? Edited September 15, 2006 by Highflyingclive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonthebhoy Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Picture the scene.......... The PP research and design team sitting in the office at 3.00 o'clock on a Friday afternoon in the seventies and some adoring English West country PP fan has sent them a couple of flagons of Scrumpy Jack and a 3rd Edition copy of 'Sailing & Whaling Songs of 19th Century' by Paul Clayton. The boss runs in and screams that they need some blue sky thinking to come up with something that will compete with the Submariner market...............before Monday!!!..... or old man Stern is going to sack them all and cash his chips in with Rolex! That Scrumpy Jack is one powerful drink! JTB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rek001 Posted September 15, 2006 Report Share Posted September 15, 2006 Don't tell me, the new Nautilus will be 44mm with a crown guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linder Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 We should know either way very soon on the new models! Even my good friend at the Patek AD does not yet have even basic info such as pricing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archibald Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 We should know either way very soon on the new models! Even my good friend at the Patek AD does not yet have even basic info such as pricing. I've gone from hate to kind of like GG's old designs, which are understated elegence compared to the abortions he currently tries to hawk at half MSRP--the RO is my fav but I kind of like the Nautilus too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I thought I read somewhere that the "Nautilus" was supposed to be fashioned after a ship's porthole, can't remember where I read that but it does resemble one which oughta garner a few more comments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linder Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I kept trying to peg the porthole on the Vacheron Constantin Overseas but I think the real truth was in the Royal Oak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted September 16, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 Indeed, the Royal Oak is after the Royal Oak (as in the HMS Royal Oak). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted September 16, 2006 Report Share Posted September 16, 2006 I used to have a 3710 Nautilus, and it had to be one of the finest stainless steel watches out there, maybe even a small tick above the Royal Oak. But the watch just seemed to lack character, and despite the larger size, it just seemed too "old" to me. Yes, it is pretty ugly, and is definitely not what a "Patek" should be like, but hey, it's a watch with the Patek name on it after all. The Aquanaut is worse, the rubber strap is thin and cheap feeling (the rep strap feels better!), and the dial looks like it's made from plastic, but I liked the display back which allows one to watch the consummately finished Patek movement in action. My idea of Patek is the classic 3919 Calatrava and models like the 5070. Those are beautiful, classic watches that really define what a Patek is. The newer Pateks are a disgrace to the brand name, especially the new Skeleton Minute Repeater Perpetual Calendar, looks like a cheap rep made in China. I also don't fancy the new Annual Calendar Chrono, and despite the exquisite in-house chrono movement, the dial stinks, although it still looked a bit better in person. For now at least, I'm praying I will get that magical call from my Patek AD about an incoming 5970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gran Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 I thought I read somewhere that the "Nautilus" was supposed to be fashioned after a ship's porthole, can't remember where I read that but it does resemble one which oughta garner a few more comments! I guess its possiblen that also the Nautilus is designed to look ike aporthole but...this is probably the thread you want on this subject: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=4008 Perhaps the most prominent line in the Audemars Piguet collection is the Royal Oak, which was launched in 1972. The name is rooted in English history: it is said that Charles II, when pursued by Cromwell's army in 1651, took refuge in the hollow trunk of an oak. Inspired by the story, the Royal Nayy between 1803 and 1914 christened three of its largest battleships "Royal Oak." Spurred by the rich historical heritage of the name, Audemars Piguet decided to commission a design from that rascal Gerald Genta that would be a worthy reflection of this proud heritage. The shape is derived from the shape of a porthole, with the bezel attached by eight hexagonal bolts made of white gold. Purists may note that the slots of the screws are, of course, always perfectly aligned to follow the curvature of the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Perhaps this has been addressed, but I am really curious why both the real and fake use "IIII" as the roman numerals to indicate the time is four o'clock instead of "IV". I feel like I am missing something? Markers never look lined up right to me either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 4 o'clock.... ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omni Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 4 o'clock.... ????? A few different theories, but mine is that it is a more symetrical design using IIII instead of IV. But here is some good reading on it. http://www.ubr.com/clocks/faq/iiii.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linder Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Yes, I have always heard it was due to symetrical reasons as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craytonic Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 Thanks for the link! I actually buy the 1 2 3 GOD 5 6 explanation, sorta like YHWY in the hebrew bible. I think numbering like that might lead to people calling it out as fake on sheer ignorance of the gen using the same numerals... "must be chinese, they used IIII instead of IV" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outline Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 Speaking of outdated design...chrono version has a page coverage in december british GQ. Nothing for nothing, but most of the peps here have no taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outline Posted December 25, 2006 Report Share Posted December 25, 2006 (edited) Edited December 25, 2006 by outline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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