Whatever123 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Hi fellas, I realized, there are two different dial versions for the 6538 - 2 lines and 4 lines (see pics from Yukiwatch). What's the history? Thanks, Whatever123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 The 6538 was produced from 1954 - 1959. The first two years it did not bear the "OCC" designation on the dial, and was not C.O.S.C. chronometer certified. The last 3 years of its production they added "Officially Certified Chronometer" to the dial. All years of production carried a depth rating of 200m/660ft. Curiously, nothing had changed to give it the OCC designation; it used the 1030 movement during its entire brief career. The 6536 also appeared during this time, with a smaller Twinlock crown and less extreme depth rating: 100m/330ft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Early on, there were also a 0-lined dial A red-lettered dial A military-issue dial And a couple variations on the 1-lined dial theme You gotta love Rolex's consistency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 You got to love the knolegde in this place, Freddy how the hell do you know all these little facts And Which Military was this issued to and if i happen to find one in the back of my sock draw how much should i ask for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 And of course, the very first, 1954 6200 Not even called a Submariner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Freddy how the hell do you know all these little facts Lucky guess (& 2.5 decades of watch collecting.) And Which Military was this issued to and if i happen to find one in the back of my sock draw how much should i ask for it I am not positive about this, but I believe they were issued to the British Navy &, based on the prices of 5517s, I suppose you could probably ask whatever you want since there are only about a handful (at most) of them about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever123 Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 You guys are incredible... Great answers, thanks! Oh, and Andy... Unfortunately the contents of your sock drawer aren't worth a cent... just ship them to me if you want to get rid of them... without the socks that is... ;-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Ahhhhhh, there's another very important "Submariner" that Freddy left out. The black-out dial 6204. Come on Freddy, you're slipping man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Slipping? Nah, at least not in this case. The thread subject was the 6538, which is what I limited my comments to. Now, if you want to open things up to the entire range of vintage Submariners (all of which can trace their lineage back to the 6202 Turn-O-Graph, a model, as you know, that is particularly close to my heart)........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Not found one yet in the sock drawer, oh but that GMT with the red on the dial, well i just found 3 of them,chucked em though, batterys were flat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever123 Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 So now if anyone of you has a 6538 dial lying around... please PM me. Take another look in your sock drawer, please Andy! But don't tell me what you find, unless it has at least remotely to do with watches... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Oh, you do NOT want to see what knickers Andy keeps in his drawers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Mmmmmm... 6200 would be a nice piece to have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Mmmmmm... 6200 would be a nice piece to have... That's another project for the Ubimaster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I'll volunteer to draw the black line on the dial with a sharpie... I have really steady hands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyB Posted October 20, 2010 Report Share Posted October 20, 2010 Ahhhhhh, there's another very important "Submariner" that Freddy left out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centaur Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 If I may chime in rather than creating a new thread, I have a question more along the lines of the 2 line dial and the text colors. In the movie, it looks like the depth rating is yelowish like the other words, but on all the other dials I've seen offered, it's white. Any insight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Where could one source the lollipop seconds hand from? Also, what size is the original dial(diameter) E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I have a question more along the lines of the 2 line dial and the text colors. In the movie, it looks like the depth rating is yelowish like the other words, but on all the other dials I've seen offered, it's white. Any insight? The yellowish print is called gilt, which is essentially gold leaf. The early Sub dials were made for Rolex by 2-3 dial companies, which is why some of the details vary. Where could one source the lollipop seconds hand from? Also, what size is the original dial(diameter) No idea of the size, but a number of parts sellers have them. Here is 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Thanks Freddy. I also found that sleazeball on fleBay was a set in silver, which may be wrong, or not. I may just test a set against the seconds pin from a 2846 ETA to see if they fit. Does anyone know how shallow/deep the rehaut should be on these watches? E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Does anyone know how shallow/deep the rehaut should be on these watches? Shallower than a bombshell blonde's personality. The 6538 is a little deeper. Not much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Nanuq, you're awesome man. Just had to say that. Looking at this picture, the dial sits inside the rehaut, but just barely? Is this correct? E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 Not "inside" but rather "under". The dial is mashed up against the backside of the rehaut. There's a tiny bit of overlap there. Most people don't realize how thin these things are. This is a 6mm crown we're looking at, before its pilgrimmage to UbiLand for a Brevet swap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I found one case from Trevor that I had an issue with the rehaut placement. It was fine from 12 through 9 but from 10 though 11 it was off a tiny bit. Had to sand down using a disc to "even it" out. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted September 8, 2011 Report Share Posted September 8, 2011 I found one case from Trevor that I had an issue with the rehaut placement. It was fine from 12 through 9 but from 10 though 11 it was off a tiny bit. Had to sand down using a disc to "even it" out. E I recall Donerix built a 6542 and he dealt with the wokky rehaut using sandpaper and got a killer nice result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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