nick1972 Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 I just read a topic on the VRF http://www.network54.com/Forum/207593/message/1291044067/puuhhh..+9315+fake+or+not- I want one, where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Wow, I think in most of the photos, the fake looks better than the gen. I'll take two, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolexmaniac88 Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 same here! Where's the source???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Holy Smokes! Not sure about the end links & clasp on the gen either (should have channels on the clasp closer & the 380 on the end links is stamped in an odd location), but anyone have a link (for the fake) yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 WOW sign me up!!!! Lets do a group buy! I almost want to ask the guy if i can buy it. He will probably throw it in the trash or destroy it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Freddy, I wonder if he switched the photos of the "finished" side of the clasp? The grooving in the right side is far better than the left photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Agreed ^^^. Lets find the source for these. Sign me up for 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliptopolis Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Might be nothing, but it says "pateted" on both bracelets...shouldn't one of them say "patented"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Freddy, I wonder if he switched the photos of the "finished" side of the clasp? The grooving in the right side is far better than the left photo. Not sure. Both look a bit suspect to me Here is my gen (from an unassailable source). Note the position of the end link stamp & shape of coronet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Its look almost too good, especially the stamping on the clasp blades... Looks like someone finally deceided it was time to make a proper bracelet.. almost like Rolex started up production again... can you imagine if Rolex started leaking out vintage replacement parts to take away a piece of the counterfeit market. Yes i know I'm dreaming... The only real "faults" if you can call them that, are the cornet on the clasp is slightly off and the links are too thick. Other than that, its going to fool everyone who doesnt have a gen bracelet and a loop for side by side comparison!! Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Not sure. Both look a bit suspect to me Here is my gen (from an unassailable source). Note the position of the end link stamp & shape of coronet Yes my gen 380 end link stamps are also closer to the center the same as Freddys. Either way, if this is a rep bracelet, its by far the best one ever made. It looks as though the rep cornet was copied from a gen that was previously polished because Freddys looks sharper than both of the ones in the VRF post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Man, I would take a couple of those in a heartbeat. like the man said, in some of the scans, the rep looked more genuine than the genuine!! Someone needs to see where that guy got the fake from. i would bet he bought it at a watch show, or Ebay. You really need to have them in good light and a pretty good bit of magnification to tell them apart. By itself, not many folks around could tell it was a rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I've got Mary hot on the trail. If they're available, she will know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nanuq Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Might be nothing, but it says "pateted" on both bracelets...shouldn't one of them say "patented"? Curiously, that is actually a way to authenticate a genuine 9315 folded oyster. They originally came from the mountain gnome Rolex huts with that misspelling. So now we have people replicating errors to make their fakes look more genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimster Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I'm definitely in for 2. They look as gen as I've seen. Now they need to make a 93150,580 ends, and a 7863 and the list goes on and on.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsupilami Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 look here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270661737006#ht_720wt_1141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Hey guys, you want only two? I'll have a dozen They look so good that we should stock them so we have enough for a lifetime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 look here: That looks like the 1, but it is clearly priced (& being sold) as a gen. A quick perusal of the bay turned up a couple more with similar appearances. I remain unconvinced, but could it be that the odd stampings are actually gen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Perhaps a case of NOS bracelets that a Rolex AD found in their basement or something? Now i see that its shipped out of Hong Kong... hhhmmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Hey guys, you want only two? I'll have a dozen They look so good that we should stock them so we have enough for a lifetime Ok you are right, put me down for 10 of them on the first order! Hopefully Mary can find some info for us! Dizz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Now i see that its shipped out of Hong Kong... hhhmmmm... There's hope yet. Too bad this guy is selling the bracelet as gen. Sure wish I could read German! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 Sure wish I could read German! I tried to translate via google, but it does not work with ebay pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonio_fr Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 look here: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270661737006#ht_720wt_1141 It look the same. Price is high for a fake. I would pay agree to pay up to 200-250€ if the quality wa really there, but not more for a fake... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southcoast68 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 (edited) I find it interesting that the "patented" on the divers extension is mis-spelled on both those examples. See the attached pictures of my own gen folded link oyster bracelet. Even though it does not show up on the picture, the word "patented" is spelled correctly on my diver extension. My history with this band; I got it about 16 years ago, it was installed on my GMT Master that I bought used at a Rolex AD (Gray's Jewelers in Barrington, R.I.). It was the wrong type of oyster bracelet for a GMT, having the extension link and bigger clasp, so I replaced it with an aftermarket jubilee bracelet and kept it in my parts. I have no doubt that my bracelet is gen due to where I got it from as well as how long I have had it. Its funny, just over the past few days, I have been toying with the idea of selling this bracelet to make funds for other projects. Now it seems like the rep industry has apparently come up with their own version of it, perhaps making the one I have worth a little less? Cheers Edited December 1, 2010 by southcoast68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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