craigb Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 i have a sub with a misalined date mag, how do you you remove it and what should i use to stick it back in place? hope you can help guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 There are two ways depending on how it is mis-aligned, A remove the crystal and refit it B Remove the loupe and re-glue it on Both are fairly simple with the right tools and experience if it is a sapphire crystal A invilves removing the caeback, stem and movement ect and pressing out the crystal with a crystal press and then pressing it back in B involves heat to melt the glue that holds the loupe on and re gluing it with UV activated glue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I'll add that the above procedure B is only for a glass or sapphire crystal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 There are two ways depending on how it is mis-aligned, A remove the crystal and refit it B Remove the loupe and re-glue it on Both are fairly simple with the right tools and experience if it is a sapphire crystal A invilves removing the caeback, stem and movement ect and pressing out the crystal with a crystal press and then pressing it back in B involves heat to melt the glue that holds the loupe on and re gluing it with UV activated glue it is about 4 mil to the left out!wow. yeah it is saphire crystal, can i buy that from most shops or is it specialized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hi craigb, 4 mm out to the left that means it almost sitting in the centre. Did you contact your supplier on this issue. Carpe Diem Cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 4mm????????????? you got to post a picture of that! You can get the glue from most watch supply houses, but you will need a UV lamp to cure it, (got a nail salon near you?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hi craigb, 4 mm out to the left that means it almost sitting in the centre. Did you contact your supplier on this issue. Carpe Diem Cats hi cats, basically i have built the watch from all my spare parts, supose its a good way to learn. the crystal come from another sub, so far so good until the mag, but it sounds like an easy mod,just need to find the glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 4mm????????????? you got to post a picture of that! You can get the glue from most watch supply houses, but you will need a UV lamp to cure it, (got a nail salon near you?) it is amazing how off it is, give me 10 mins an ill post one up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btocamelo Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Won't heat mess up the AR? And when do you know you have enough heat...does the cyclops just slide off? There are two ways depending on how it is mis-aligned, A remove the crystal and refit it B Remove the loupe and re-glue it on Both are fairly simple with the right tools and experience if it is a sapphire crystal A invilves removing the caeback, stem and movement ect and pressing out the crystal with a crystal press and then pressing it back in B involves heat to melt the glue that holds the loupe on and re gluing it with UV activated glue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 you ready for a laugh then guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 No Ar on most rolex glasses the Glue you want from cousinsuk.com A F Minad UV cure glue C0365 £11.60 plus tax and post Loks like that crystal is from something with an ETA date wheel position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 @btocamelo, if i'm not mistaken craig is talking about a sub which he built from old parts so there shouldn't be any AR on the date mag . Unless it's a new deep sea. But yes haeting the class can damage the AR coating. Carpe Diem Cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 No Ar on most rolex glasses the Glue you want from cousinsuk.com A F Minad UV cure glue C0365 £11.60 plus tax and post Loks like that crystal is from something with an ETA date wheel position yeah that crystal did come from an eta watch, ok ill order that glue,could i not use my high powered tropical marine fish tank lights to cure the glue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 yeah that crystal did come from an eta watch, ok ill order that glue,could i not use my high powered tropical marine fish tank lights to cure the glue? If they are UV lights then more than likely but if you have a nail salon the ones my wife spends al day with here hand in are the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I cure mine by sitting them out in direct sunlight for 20-30 minutes. Your dial looks to have the date window in the "ETA position" while your crystal has the magnifier in the "Rolex position". I use a heat gun and occasionally pick at the magnifier with an Xacto knife until it pops off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 @jmb i wish we had even a glimmer of sunshine here in the uk, the best we can wish for is a wopping 22 degrees that only lasts a day.what a summer! i would imagine my lights will do the trick. fxrandy, if my lights dont do it ill go for a manicure and get the watch done at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 @jmb i wish we had even a glimmer of sunshine here in the uk, the best we can wish for is a wopping 22 degrees that only lasts a day.what a summer! i would imagine my lights will do the trick. fxrandy, if my lights dont do it ill go for a manicure and get the watch done at the same time. I can just imagine that LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 If your glass isnt sapphire, it may crack when you heat it. Do you know what case you are using and if its sapphire and not mineral glass? Be sure to heat the crystal evenly and only use as much heat as you need to soften the glue to avoid breaking the glass. dizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Won't heat mess up the AR? And when do you know you have enough heat...does the cyclops just slide off? Rolex does not AR their sport watch crystals. If you were to try it with a gen GMT IIc you would have a problem, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneed12 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 IMO you're better off just sourcing a crystal with the cyclops in the correct (or "wrong" actually) position. I have a spare somewhere, I'll dig and see if I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 You don't need actually a UV lamp. You can dry the glue on daylight in 1-2 minutes - in direct sunlight it takes only a few seconds...we have a big ozone hole, so the UV radiation is doing a good job. Without kidding - it works fine! AR wouldn't get off if you heat the crystal from other side (GMT IIc). Tested a few times. On direct heating maybe yes, it depends on the temperature I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 IMO you're better off just sourcing a crystal with the cyclops in the correct (or "wrong" actually) position. I have a spare somewhere, I'll dig and see if I can't find it. hi sneed12 that would great. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 You know...it looks like the mag lens in in the correct position and the date window of the dial is in the standard eta postion. (I order a datejust and it came in like that) It looks as though you could contact BK about a new Noobmariner dial and it would fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmb Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 It looks as though you could contact BK about a new Noobmariner dial and it would fix the problem. That would look quite a bit better and he would then need a date wheel overlay as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigb Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 i found another sub dial in my parts, so i swapped the dial and put on a new date wheel, all ok now but thanks for the advise guy's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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