RWG Technical Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 A short pictorial of the work required when servicing/restoring a vintage Angelus cal 240 8 day movement. First up some pictures of the condition as received Hairspring coils are so dirty they are stuck to each other Somewhat dirty and gummed up Very dirty and someone installed the wrong screws holding the jewel setting in place, the correct screws should be flush, not sticking out of the setting Keyless very dirty with many particles of crap After a good cleaning we end up with the following results BEFORE AFTER BEFORE AFTER BEFORE AFTER BEFORE AFTER BEFORE AFTER Note not only the cleanliness of the c0ck but the new correct length screws I installed BEFORE AFTER Fabrication of longer CANNON PINION, HOUR WHEEL, and PINION for running seconds hand. In addition to the above restoration work, this project also included the fabrication of longer cannon pinion, hour wheel, and running seconds post to allow the hands to clear the new thicker dial Here’s an overall view of the new parts Here is a close-up of the new hour wheel pipe Here is the view from the bottom, the new pipe was riveted to the gear Here is the new longer cannon pin, note the dimensions of the parts Overall view of the new parts in place. The seconds post dimensions are a drilled hole at 0.25mm to fit over the 4th wheel pivot, and the post measures 0.25mm also to accept the new seconds hand. Thanks for reading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archierocks Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 great work really amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grew Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 A master at work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabularasa415 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Nice work, R! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephane Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Not only the work is great but after all these years I still wonder how you shoot those pics. It's been a long time since we have a new "how to shot macro pictures"... Maybe you could tell us how you do this I used to be proud of some pictures of mine ...but each time I see yours I feel like a dummy ! Thanks for sharing one more interresting restore work Zig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Amazing work! I noticed the bridge engravings are actually gold in the After shot. Were they just gummed up to make them appear black in the Before shot? Love this stuff. Keep them coming whenever you can....please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panermaniac Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Incredible work! How long did that all take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Wow, amazing stuff. Thanks for sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbutlerman Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Beautiful Zig, Beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Wow! Fabrication of those parts require some massive skills. Well done! Why do you think the balance [censored] has a different colour opposed to the rest of the bridges? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Amazing work! I noticed the bridge engravings are actually gold in the After shot. Were they just gummed up to make them appear black in the Before shot? Love this stuff. Keep them coming whenever you can....please As you can see, everything was really gummed up and black, the before pictures are as it arrived on the bench. Incredible work! How long did that all take? Servicing ran about 3 or so hours, custom fabricating by hand the new cannon, hour, and seconds post took the better part of a day. When your tolerance is 0.01mm and you are turning freehand in the lathe a part that finishes up at 0.25mm, after having to drill a 0.25mm hole, it requires a delicate touch and a lot of patience. Wow! Fabrication of those parts require some massive skills. Well done! Why do you think the balance [censored] has a different colour opposed to the rest of the bridges? The balance c0ck looked completely out of place as compared to the rest of the movement, my only guess is that it either wasn't original, or that it was in a location that was open to cigarette smoke and dirt. It was gross... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 The man can truly work some magic! The before and after shots are pretty amazing. No short cuts here either; the job is done the correct and proper way. It's nice to know that there are still folks out there like the Zigmeister who take the time to do things the right way for sake of knowing that it's correct. I wish more people would take this kind of pride in their work (not limited to just watch stuff either). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I wish more people would take this kind of pride in their work (not limited to just watch stuff either). No kidding. Zig does itt the right way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prospex44 Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Amazing stuff, trully fantastic work, and very inspirational! Thanks for sharing the process and the pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitesox Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 No kidding. Zig does itt the right way And that's why Zig is my go to person for watch repairs as his skills are second to none. Thanks for the fantastic writeup and photos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Great write-up and pics. The skills go without saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I want to see the 10cm lathe you use to make 1mm parts Talent by the yard, as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 I wish more people would take this kind of pride in their work (not limited to just watch stuff either). 100% agree across the board. A shame that it is disappearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Hat's off to you. Mind boggling skills, thanks for taking the time to share Zig! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 100% agree across the board. A shame that it is disappearing. It is a shame. Sadly I see the botched results of many unskilled watchsmiths all too often. It seems as if the overall interest in these technical posts is also disappearing, the forum member demographics and interest is not what it used to be, that's for sure. Either that, or most don't appreciate or understand the skills needed to make these type of parts....at one time all techincal posts generated a lot of discussion and interest with the membership, not any more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Incredible stuff! You will have a long line of vintage builders needing sf240 overhauls from all forums Looking at the before pics the owner is lucky nothing was truly broken and in need of replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWG Technical Posted April 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Incredible stuff! You will have a long line of vintage builders needing sf240 overhauls from all forums Looking at the before pics the owner is lucky nothing was truly broken and in need of replacement. Thanks. Whenever I receive a watch or movement, especially one in this condition, I never wind or "test" it, a general overall look will tell you it's in poor condition, winding it may cause irreversable damage. Interestingly on this one, when I assembled the train and tested all the end and side shakes, the 4th wheel had no end shake and no clearance, in fact with the bridge in place, the 4th wheel was jammed solid. I ended up having to move the top 4th wheel jewel into the bridge by 0.04mm to give it the required end shake and running clearance, and allow the train to spin freely. What I can't figure out is this: How did this happen? with no end shake and a jammed 4th wheel the movement would not run, but it had to be running at some point, so what happend to the end shake? Who or where did the clearance go and when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w0lf Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 That's pretty cool, every vintage movement has a story to tell, I'm sure, but without the whole watch it could be difficult to figure out how things like this happen. Maybe the travel clock that housed this movement fell from a desk in one of the the cabins of some glamorous 60's cruise ship one too many times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Sorry to be the obvious-man, but does anybody know how to locate one of these matthey-tissot sf240s? Or are there any other brands out there? If anyone wants to unload pls pm me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrgod Posted April 21, 2012 Report Share Posted April 21, 2012 Thanks for the journey through the service. Nice to know that even a movement in this state can be saved. In the first picture, I thought "This does not seem too bad"..But in the close up pictures, one can really see that it has been a while since last service. What kind of watch was this movement cased in? There are fewer technical posts these today. Seems like even mechanical watches have become affected by "service by replacement". :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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