fotoman Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Yep, you surely did. I have been tied up for the last couple of weeks making it hard for me to do anything more than glance at a few posts now and then, so i am only just now catching up. I did see that post by that ubiquitous low-life Randy teasing us with his spare parts . . . and these people think some of the avatars are a turn on! I am slowly building my collection of MBWs - I have a box of them and I need to get a few of my favorites out to be relumed with SL. Some of the reviews that have been posted reveal that we have some real artists in our midsts and as much as I love the MBWs, I need a watch that I can read at night. Bill jeez no props here, not only did i breakdown the legal thing, but i then explained how it is a breech of contract Does everyone have me on ignore or something!!! also, my 2 Cents - seeing that everyone is so upset about it, i think we should enforce the rule - its defiantly not "nessecary" and as we all know in order to live in an orderly society we all must accept boundaries and limitations. And i see no reason to not enforce this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Did anyone hear of phoband lately i haven`t seen him around for ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 He went off to sell some pens I think Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Did anyone hear of phoband lately i haven`t seen him around for ages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJGladeRaider Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 jeez no props here, not only did i breakdown the legal thing, but i then explained how it is a breech of contract Not meaning to ignore you, but I cannot very well acknowledge that you beat me to a position I didn't take. There is no such thing as "Breech of contract," the word is "Breach." Spelling notwithstanding, I cannot agree with your explanation of how this is a breach of contract since there has been no explanation as to what contract was alleged to have been breached, identification of contrary provisions, or even any acknowledgement that there was a contract at all. So anyway, "Hi Phoband, nice to see you." Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotoman Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Not meaning to ignore you, but I cannot very well acknowledge that you beat me to a position I didn't take. There is no such thing as "Breech of contract," the word is "Breach." Spelling notwithstanding, I cannot agree with your explanation of how this is a breach of contract since there has been no explanation as to what contract was alleged to have been breached, identification of contrary provisions, or even any acknowledgement that there was a contract at all. So anyway, "Hi Phoband, nice to see you." Bill \ Ok, i may spell like a 2 yr old (i'm left brain impaired, i can't spell, memorize, remember peoples names or learn foreign languages ) I must hitherto forth assert that there exists an implied contract in every employment. Whereas each employer acknoweldges the demonstrated consideration in exchange for monitary or other renumeration occurring in equal cycles. has anyone ever tried to use all of these smilies - damn, its tuff to find reason for them all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Did anyone hear of phoband lately i haven`t seen him around for ages Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 I agree Clive - there can be no references to [censored] on this forum! JTB First laugh I've had all thread. But I have SO little sympathy with mentalities that want to start a Jihad at the first glimpse of female flesh. The avatars here, and on the other forums display a great degree of creativity, humour and, yes some erotica. (There is a difference between pornography and erotica... you with the dictionary... look it up). I have found some ... a very small minority... offensive, in some degree. I may have felt some sorrow for the author... but would not wish the avatar removed. What right do I have to impose my will on another? None at all. Quite frankly, I have not seen any avatar or sig, on this or any of the other watch forums, that I would not wish to prevent my wife, children or mother viewing. All it takes is a sense of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 But I have SO little sympathy with mentalities that want to start a Jihad at the first glimpse of female flesh. You arrogant clod. Did you miss the actual discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Ah. Abuse. From you, of all people. I am disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Ah. Abuse. From you, of all people. I am disappointed. Yeah, I know. Sorry about that. It read a lot harsher than I intended. Still, I do get the impression you're kind of missing the point. Did you forget the part you accused us all of being thieves though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 No, not all of you. Just one. With, I believe, some justification. However, if you had accused me of arrogance back then, I would have been forced to agree with you. But "clod"? Ok - I'm from Buckinghamshire - I can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender110 Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 hey i like all the avatars and sig. pics in question... and i surf the net at work(i do work on net related projects)... however the sig. pics and some of the avatars are not work appropriate and i am glad they are able to be blocked... surfing the neet at work may be ok or may not be ok... depends on your possition within the company as well as your job responsibilities.. like if you are in management or the owner(hee) or maybe a sectratary that answers the phone all day and directs calls, surfing would probally be ok. however in any circumstance the questionable avatars and sig. pics are NOT work friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gioarmani Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 There's plenty of humorous avatars around, whether it's a tombstone implying a husband/boyfriend was murdered because a materialistic wife/girlfriend didn't get the watch she requested, or a set of handle-bars on a girl's back suggesting a different kind of ride. Strictly out of curiosity, how about an avatar that's not sexual? What about humor involving religion? I've seen this on another forum, but would something like this also call for cries of censorship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Aah, so it`s a provoke thing afterall. You are like a little kid trying what the boundaries off his parents are. I think that is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Strictly out of curiosity, how about an avatar that's not sexual? What about humor involving religion? I've seen this on another forum, but would something like this also call for cries of censorship? No. By the way, it's not censorship; it's a plea for a safe environment to discuss watches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 (edited) At the risk of being contentious - and I do appreciate that when you hit the "new post" button, you get a different result than I do - have you noticed how few threads are discussing watches tonight? Ferrets, however... well, that is a different story. Edited November 8, 2006 by Highflyingclive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Aah, so it`s provoke thing afterall. You are like a little kid trying what the boundaries off his parents are. I think that is sad. That is the exact same read as I take from that post! Understand this gioarmani you may have zero concern or respect for anyone on this board, but you have already been booted from another forum for this and this rule.....15) No adult or warez content please......say's it can happen again. I think it is time to adjust the way you think there sport. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkerouac Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Why do even have avatars? To express a bit of our personalities, and to make it easier to scan a thread and identify posts by individuals you are familiar with. Actually I'm relieved that not everyone has a watch-related avatar, because I'll be the majority would use Submariners, Pams, or Breitlings. On the other hand, I would prefer not to be confronted by tacky or obnoxious avatars. I make no claims to be the final arbiter of what is tacky or offensive. However, if I am offended then I figure others can and have been even more offended. I can think of several fine people, male and female alike, who have abandoned this and the other watch forums because the sexist or even bigoted overtones of the forums made them feel uncomfortable. I usually browse when I am alone, but I would not want my family or coworkers to be exposed to obnoxious avatars. Sure, I can turn this content off, but it's a multistep process both to turn avatars off and then to turn them back on again. Big pain. So here is my vote: The responsibility should not be on the members of the board to screen out content they find distasteful or inappropriate. Say no to censorship, but say Yes to being sensitive to images that are potentially offensive to other members or to those around them. What is so complicated about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchgrl Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 There's plenty of humorous avatars around, whether it's a tombstone implying a husband/boyfriend was murdered because a materialistic wife/girlfriend didn't get the watch she requested, or a set of handle-bars on a girl's back suggesting a different kind of ride. Strictly out of curiosity, how about an avatar that's not sexual? What about humor involving religion? I've seen this on another forum, but would something like this also call for cries of censorship? Gio, You have proven yourself to be nothing but rude and childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Gio, You have proven yourself to be nothing but rude and childish. Rude? Childish? I didn't pick up on either - can you explain more fully, please? Without the abuse, for preference. Reasoned arguments work for me. Abuse diminishes the responsible correspondent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Rude? Childish? I didn't pick up on either - can you explain more fully, please? Without the abuse, for preference. Reasoned arguments work for me. Abuse diminishes the responsible correspondent. Hey Clive - put down the pipe and read the whole thread. It looks to me based on your posts in this thread that you have not read the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasng Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 No CJ, I think he has read the thread, he said that people need to get a sense of humour about it. Too bad my fiancee doesn't find it funny at all, neither do the spouses of the forum membership here, I wager. I really think that it is sad that someone has to do this almost intentionally, jsut to draw the ire of forum membership and to attract attention. If you wanted attention, good job, you've sure as hell managed to captre a lot of it very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cucumber_Jones Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Funny - I think rude and childish are a very good start to discribe the masive amount of disrespect that gio (new member) is showing the many other new and veteran members here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gioarmani Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 What forum was I booted from?; I honestly wasn't aware of that. I didn't think to look in the rules regarding warez; I guess I figured if a place didn't mind infringing copyright laws by hocking bootlegged watches, they'd feel the same about bootlegged software. Sorry about that--it won't happen again. Aah, so it`s provoke thing afterall. And please don't be so simple-minded--as the post stated, it was to just ask if it wasn't sexual, would people also want to ban it? If you think about it, it's actually quite interesting that the people who say they only want to talk about watches have spent more time replying to this than they have posting elsewhere in a week. Logically, if I was offended by something (be it here, or anywhere else) and was truly more interested in Omegas or Rolexes, I'd just move on to where I actually wanted to post, rather than spending my time on something that angered me, or drawing more attention to this thread. Everyone here is entitled to express their opinions as freely as they see fit, and there are some rightfully strong feelings and some very good points and counter-points. The reason I posted the blasphemous pic was that when I saw it--being raised as a Christian--it made me wonder why there weren't 1000 people railing against this guy using it as an avatar (on a political board, no less...); I hadn't seen anything about it anywhere on the forum. Then I realized it was simply because no one had pointed it out. I think it goes to prove that things really aren't so controversial on their own, but rather it takes the foes of a particular topic to draw attention to it and make it so popular. If this thread or the subjects therein make people angry, after the Admin (with the bare ass in the avatar) has asked people to ignore it and move on, or simply turn their settings off, why not just let the thread die a natural death, rather than returing to it with emotion? I was trying to change the subject from sexuality to see how peoples feelings were towards something else, as this thread was getting a bit monotonous and boring. For instance, imagine how films like "The Passion of the Christ", might have failed if so many people hadn't drawn so much attention to it. The 80's sitcom "Married with Children", was considered in poor taste for it's time and was seriously floundering in the ratings, until a fundamentalist nut-job decided to call attention to it by trying to ban it on the evening news and in the papers. She wound up actually doing the opposite of what she had intended & made it a hit by getting the world to tune into a show they'd never heard of, that was slated for cancelation anyway. The picture was honestly posted to see what people's feelings were and not for childish shock-value. I'm not a Howard Stern fan. And as far as the issue of respect goes, I've been extremely respectful-more so than a lot of other members who can't seem to control their emotions enough to not lash out at other people in anger. What happened to forgiveness or understanding? Just because someone's opinion or views differ from yours doesn't mean they're being disrespectful to you--that has nothing to do with respect. When a person can't hold their tongue (i.e typing) long enough to stop themselves from cursing or insulting another human being, that's disrespect. But I try not to hold grudges; I don't hold much against anybody, but I've made mistakes as we all have. I feel I've been very nice and more than rational than most in responding to a heated discussion, and whether it's in this thread or any other I've ever posted, I've always tried to do the same. I do agree with the members who say an agrument or discourse addressed in abusive manner, doesn't sound very reasonable. I'm a huge believer in animal rights & protection simply for the fact I believe all living creatures should be treated as equally as humans would like to be; maybe more so simply for the fact that they don't theoretically posses the same sentient intelligence we're suppose to--but even if someone posted a huge avatar containing smiling sailors happily slaughtering whales, as disgusting as I feel that might be, I would never ask them to remove it. I very well may be a new member, but in that short time I think I've helped positively contribute more than others who have 10 times my tenure. Truthfully, there's not a person on this board I don't have respect for, even those who continue to be rude to me or single me out. But I think we should simply take things with a grain of salt and move on--for the simple sake of manners not to mention our sanity & health. We are in the "Off Topic" section after all; it is ok to talk about things on here other than watches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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