Star69 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 to make it short - i sold a watch - buyer recieved it - "shoke it for minutes, long minutes" and did not get it to work .... i transfered him $50 to get it fixed. tried to explain that i can not take it back as it will be destroyed by customes ... and it prob is just an easy fix ... instead to have an watchmaker look over it . he pulles off an Credit Card Charge Back over Paypal - means im without the watch - minus $600 and minus $50 i paid for the repair... so beware : juan.sidarta Berkeley, California 94704 is the guy - aka "dark_chocobo" cheers, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louky Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Thats bad!Hope you sort it out !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 There is bunch of usa members that could have take a look at it, but then on the other side reciving a dead watch is probebly the worst thing that can happen, it realy takes away every hope you have build up for it! Sending it back to Germany would work from Usa, regular registerd airmail custom decleration 65$ "repaird cristal" "return to owner" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 What an idiot, I hope you can out him on all the forums. Getting paypal involved is just bad business. I hope you get your watch or money back at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever123 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Sending it back to Germany would work from Usa, regular registerd airmail custom decleration 65$ "repaird cristal" "return to owner" I seriously doubt it... customs are so strict here, they would ask for a proof of purchase for the watch. If they hadn't already figured out it's a rep by then... believe me, they're good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 first he wanted $180 for fixing the watch then $120 - i offered to send an complete new movement for free - i doubt the watch is defective at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 I seriously doubt it... customs are so strict here, they would ask for a proof of purchase for the watch. If they hadn't already figured out it's a rep by then... believe me, they're good. They cant do that, ask for proof! You could easy say its a gift and that you dont know the value! I got a watch from the states last week. Custom took it i phoned them and ask them way they stoped it. They then Asked me what was inside i told them. Its a watch, the cristal was changed, i havent payed anything for that due it was my brother that did the change. He then says aahhhaa but you two dont have the same last name (i was thinking what an idiot) i told him, no my mother remarried over there 20years ago. Silence after that for a few seconds then he says, thank you, we will relise it now and you will have it tomorrow.. As long as you say it is a gift or somthing ells its always OK, never ever say you bought it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 German customs are the nighmare - i get a lot of vintage Seikos and parts - my other hobby every freaking watch - even if totally in pieces - rusted half awy they sent to an lawyer who checks them if they original - timewasters .... they know me already at the customes office and i calculate 2 extra weeks till i get my watches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever123 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 They cant do that, ask for proof! You could easy say its a gift and that you dont know the value! I got a watch from the states last week. Custom took it i phoned them and ask them way they stoped it. They then Asked me what was inside i told them. Its a watch, the cristal was changed, i havent payed anything for that due it was my brother that did the change. He then says aahhhaa but you two dont have the same last name (i was thinking what an idiot) i told him, no my mother remarried over there 20years ago. Silence after that for a few seconds then he says, thank you, we will relise it now and you will have it tomorrow.. As long as you say it is a gift or somthing ells its always OK, never ever say you bought it!!! It just doesn't work like that here, mate. It really doesn't. They will ask for proof of purchase and if you can't provide that you either pay full import taxes and VAT for a genuine watch (because they will assume that you just bought it then and they will estimate the value)... or you admit it's a rep and it gets destroyed and you'll have to pay some fine and get a nice lawyer letter... I know what I'm talking about. Unfortunately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Can't it just be sent to someone else in the EU for trans-shipment to Germany? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtguk Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 He's on my no deal list now thanks for letting us know! Hope you can get this sorted in your favour again v soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finhs Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 For general interest, the custom in Germany are reteined many parcels with watches and parts, i sent three parcels 30 days ago, and one fellow member has to go to the post office, other one had retined during 25 days, and i think other one is return to me, i have no problem in all EU, only in Germany. For that reason i have to explain very well the situation to the buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiesn089 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 German customs are the nighmare - i get a lot of vintage Seikos and parts - my other hobby every freaking watch - even if totally in pieces - rusted half awy they sent to an lawyer who checks them if they original - timewasters .... they know me already at the customes office and i calculate 2 extra weeks till i get my watches Same here, every single parcel I receive from overseas gets inspected, it's ridiculous, German customs is a real pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spooky driver Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 It just doesn't work like that here, mate. It really doesn't. They will ask for proof of purchase and if you can't provide that you either pay full import taxes and VAT for a genuine watch (because they will assume that you just bought it then and they will estimate the value)... or you admit it's a rep and it gets destroyed and you'll have to pay some fine and get a nice lawyer letter... I know what I'm talking about. Unfortunately... german efficiency!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatever123 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 german efficiency!! Yes... I just wish my bloody project co-workers were only 10% as efficient... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 That name actually rings a bell for me, but I can't quite place it... :g: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougar1 Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Jesus H Christ not another fcker taking advantage of goddam PP, sorry to hear about this! That name actually rings a bell for me, but I can't quite place it... :g: Yes it does for me also, I think he is over on RWI aswell, an all points bulletin should go out now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronoluvvv Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 turns out Juan Sidarta has been banned from a BMW 5 series forum too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 turns out Juan Sidarta has been banned from a BMW 5 series forum too Here's his BMW and his Photobucket album (first thing to pop up on google..lol) http://s1045.photobu...arta/?start=all Juan is not a very smart scammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star69 Posted June 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Juan is not a very smart scammer too smart for me his facebook : http://www.facebook.com/juan.sidarta can anybody help me how i contact the police - or somebody in Berkeley who can help me ? its just too much money to just go away with it ... i have his name, his address - and he is a student in Berkeley .. thanks ! Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Your right, I didn't mean to make light of it. Contact the campus police and tell them the story. I would think the university would frown on this and put pressure before the real police were brought in. http://police.berkeley.edu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Campus police or real police cant do a [censored] when it comes to this matter. Its up to the buyer, seller and the stinking paypal!!! Im sorry but thats how it is!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I don't know Z, campus police might be able to pressure him. You are probably right legally, but it's worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zeleni kukuruz Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Naaaa, its word against word. You have Frank half around the world emailing a campus police about a watch that is broken on delivery (SAYS buyer)! The mail would probebly be in the trash can before even read! Onely thing is to pressure paypal with options the buyer have! Paypal sucks huge horse [censored]'s when it comes to cases like this! I feel for Frank, but there is no way he is getting the money back without puting massive pressure on paypal! Option 2 is fly over there and beat the [censored] out of him and fly back and forgett about it! Frank it dosent look good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtguk Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Option 2 sounds good Z This guys a fcukwit ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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