Lil princess Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I was reading on another Rolex owners forum and the AD's say that if you modify a gen Rolex using gen parts then they consider that watch not being manufactured by Rolex. So, if you have a great Rolex rep which you modify and make as good as gen it is no different than a gen Rolex that has been modded with gen parts! What are people's thoughts on this? I love the Franken watches, even gens! Makes them much more interesting and different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I think they're nuts over wherever you saw that. I have a 6536 from the late 50s and I installed a gen tropic crystal. According to those guys, it's not a real Rolex anymore? So I took it in to my A.D. and asked them to check a winding weirdness, and the watchmaker (a buddy of mine) was all excited to pop it open and have a look. He disappeared in back, then came back 10 minutes later. He had to call the people back at HQ and those guys said I had to sign a disclaimer before he could open it, in case the dial flaked. Sooooooo if they have a real liability, to the point I have to sign a disclaimer, then I'd say in their A.D. opinion it's still a "real" Rolex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Precisely. How about an aftermarket bracelet? Is it still a gen? What if it's a NATO strap? I don't recall Rolex releasing any of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil princess Posted February 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I think they mean by changing the appearance to one not of that model. I phoned up my friend who is an AD and he says its true! If you modify it in any way by using gen parts but change appearance it's considered not manufactured by rolex. Crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsandtigers Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 And also, if you bring it to an ad or to rolex, they will refuse to work on it. The first rolex I bought was a datejust with a tapestry dial and a sapphire crystal. Being that is was used and I was young, I brought it to rolex on 5th ave here in NYC to have it looked at. After about 15 minutes they came back with the watch and told me that it was genuine but the crystal had been changed from an acrylic to a sapphire and that rolex would not ever service it. I returned it and bought a vintage gmt Moral of the story is, if there is anything on a rolex watch that is not correct to the case, movement, dial, period, etc, they will not touch it, excluding bracelet. But they never said it was not a real rolex, only that they wouldnt service it because it had aftermarket or non matching parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 Rolex's benchmark for authenticity is that all the parts were made by Rolex & were, at some point in time, made (or sold as options) for that watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 I'm not sure that this is the arrogance of Rolex as much as it is a liability problem. in the case of the watch that was changed from acrylic to sapphire,Rolex could never guarantee the water resistance because it had been altered.Same with aftermarket parts. I believe that Rolex will work on the watch, but they will remove the aftermarket parts, destroy them and replace with genuine Rolex parts. AFA the bracelet, I would just bring the watch head in only, or put it on a Nato. IF they ask, all you have to say is my original bracelet broke and this is all I've got. As long as there are good well trained Rolex watchmakers out and about, I don't see any reason to take a watch back to an AD or to a RSC unless it's in warranty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsandtigers Posted February 4, 2013 Report Share Posted February 4, 2013 (edited) Yeah I concur about the reliability part. They weren't being dicks about it as much as I remember. Just didn't want the responsibility of a watch that was "tampered" with Edited February 4, 2013 by lionsandtigers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 only exception is with service parts......if a crystal is changed..let's say a superdome T21 to a modern bevelled T21 etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 so this would be turned away by rolex But i want one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt941 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Is that explorer guts put in a ceramic GMT case with a normal gmt master pepsi insert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 nope it is a standard EX II with a 16750 bezel assembly, sweet isnt it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt941 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Oh, nice...I didn't know you could even do that! Details? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselpower Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Rolex? What we in the north of England call a bunch of c*nts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Oh, nice...I didn't know you could even do that! Details? From what i have heard the gen bezels are a direct swap nothing more to it as long as you have an EX II and a spare GMT bezel assembly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt941 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 More details, it's a GMT with Explorer 2 dial. http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/super-cool-customized-rolex-gmts-by-pcs.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Hmm a bit easyer then for a rep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 so this would be turned away by rolex Sad, but true. I do not understood why Rolex never put a white dial in a GMT for retail sale. The contrast between the bleached white dial & colored insert produces a stunningly beautiful sample of wrist iconography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 "Rolex is not a 'real' Rolex if it has been modded. So that means.." A...What if the Gomer putting 'The Watch' together in 'The Factory' puts a screw (The Original Screw!) in a watch and then scratches the head of the screw while tightening it, removes 'The Screw', discards it, and reaches into a cup of screws and gets another one and installs it. The 'Original Screw!' has been replaced by a 'Screw! Not Original To The Watch' aka 'screw-modification'. By their own rules, "It's a Fake!" before it leaves The Factory. B...Once the back is opened and the 'Hallowed Swiss Alps Air' escapes, then is replaced by 'foreign air' (aka 'air-modified')...this means "It's a Fake!" from that point on. C...Same goes for fingerprints...one 'foreign fingerprint' (non swiss relaxy factory) and it has been 'fingerprint-modified'. So...from then on, "It's a Fake!" D...How about environment...since they are 'Born and Bred' in 'The Swiss Factory!', any change of location renders them 'modified by enviromental forces'. "It's a Fake!" from the second it left the factory. Therefore...they are All Fakes! I can live with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil princess Posted February 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Ha ha! That GMT is gorgeous but hey, even with gen mods the idiots at Rolex would call that a franken and thus not manufactured by Rolex... Why are they doing this? Seems pretentious to me. We all love modding our watches. Even gen ones. Why does it give the AD right to say what we can and can't do after WE buy their product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 It is Rolex (not an AD) that prescribes what RSCs define as a genuine Rolex watch. You are free to do whatever you want with your Rolex watch, but if you want Rolex to repair it, the watch must be genuine. If it contains incorrect or non-Rolex parts, Rolex will either reject it outright (this is what usually happens) or (in rare cases) they may agree to accept the watch contingent on your agreeing to let them replace all of the incorrect parts with correct replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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