tonton2000 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 The first time i'll enjoy being broke at christmas http://perfect-clones.com/bo10005-instrume...922-p-2262.html Plus it will have a Superlumed dial and hands! .....but the etched screws on the back remain (not that i really care) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) With an ETA 2892... and then no movement pics????.... bummer! Edited November 28, 2006 by Rolexman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 2892-a2 and super luminova for $228 is a great deal. The watch is not my cup of tea but for passionate followers, Santa has arrived 3 1/2 weeks early!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 2892-a2 and super luminova for $228 is a great deal. The watch is not my cup of tea but for passionate followers, Santa has arrived 3 1/2 weeks early!!!! My guess is the 2892 is the copy movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris5264 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Why did it have to have good lum?????? Now, I'm going to have to find some way to buy this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 My guess is the 2892 is the copy movement. My thoughts too but at that price for the seagull it is still good, nothing wrong with that movement at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Lookin' good. What is the lugwidth, 26mm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 My guess is the 2892 is the copy movement. Oh I'm sure it is. I don't think there's a genuine 2892 in any replica, is there???? From previous testimonials, the Seagul copy is a reliable movement. Not to stomp on the thread but....... With so much "style and trend" debate going on over Pams in recent threads, isn't this watch the definition of "soon to be relegated to the pet rock pile"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Manny Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 My thoughts too but at that price for the seagull it is still good, nothing wrong with that movement at all! No question in my mind about the movement. The movement would cost as much as the watch, but like you said the seagull seems to be holding up well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 With so much "style and trend" debate going on over Pams in recent threads, isn't this watch the definition of "soon to be relegated to the pet rock pile"? Well that is down to the buyer. Only time will tell if we are still wearing 45mm POs or railmaster XXLs in 2-3 years. In the 60s and 70s people wore flared trousers and then in the 80s you would not dare now look around, if you follow fashions then you will wear what is in fashion. personaly i still wear now what i wore when i was 20 as it suited me and my life style then and still does. Some people will find that they are a "pam man" to coin a phase and maybe always like the same thing, not also to forget brand loyalty even among reps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvt Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 a 46mm SQUARE watch is HUGE, I mean unbelievably large. Draw out a 46mm square on soem paper... then imagine it on your wrist... it is crazy. MUCH bigger feeling than even 50mm round watches. This thing makes a 47mm XL PAM seem SMALL and that is crazy time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebakanezzar Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 hmmm....that thing is kinda Fugly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 True 2892 and 2893's did show up in first gen FM Conquistadors, PAM GMT's and Power Reserves - 27, 28, 29 and 63. And they do still pop up once in a while. But most watches with that movement start at $400 or more (except for FM but it doesn't come with ETA movement anymore). That watch looks great though, the seagull movement will work just fine and (IMHO) thatseems to be a good price. 1:1 cased reps are increasing exponentially this year. Unfortunately original movement reps other than the most basic are rapidly disappearing this year as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 @ TVT Quite, but the person it was designed for needs to see the time very quickly and it is worn on the outside of a VERY thick sleave so on an EOD specialist it would not look out of place. But hey that what people want to wear. @ Kruzer00. True, i would like to see more movements getting repped, there was quite a pervers plesure when i found that my rep aqua Terra (base works ETA 2892) had a repped 2892 (seagull) ticking away in it. now i would be extatic to hear that seagull were working on as good a rep of a rolex 3135 or the new pam 8 day movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalcranium Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 a 46mm SQUARE watch is HUGE, I mean unbelievably large. Draw out a 46mm square on soem paper... then imagine it on your wrist... it is crazy. MUCH bigger feeling than even 50mm round watches. This thing makes a 47mm XL PAM seem SMALL and that is crazy time. I had one on a couple of months ago. It is not cuved so on a bare wrist, it's a little like wearing a bed side table alarm clock on your arm. As a pilot tool worn over a flight suit and a glove, it doesn't look abnormal but it is a conversation piece first and a watch second if you're not strapped into an F-22. To quote my Python friends, "Tis a silly looking watch." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Hilts Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 I had one on a couple of months ago. It is not cuved so on a bare wrist, it's a little like wearing a bed side table alarm clock on your arm. As a pilot tool worn over a flight suit and a glove, it doesn't look abnormal but it is a conversation piece first and a watch second if you're not strapped into an F-22. To quote my Python friends, "Tis a silly looking watch." Silly, maybe...but screw it. I just bought one. Should get here the exact same time as the genuine velcro strap I ordered. Merry Christmas to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvt Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 (edited) You know, I don't mind the Asian movements but what bugs the HELL out of me is the fact that dealers don't tell you they are Asian "replicas" of genuine ETA. In fact I have purchased watches that specificly said "genuine ETA XXX" and priced accordingly, just to later find out it was a fake. I give credit to those dealers who list "Asian 7750" for example but between all the copy "Swiss" Unitas movements in Pams (almost all of which are actually cheap ass fakes) and now this type of thing is is starting to bug me. Don't list the movement as "ETA 2892" when it simply is NOT that movement! I purchased a first gen PAM GMT that actually DOES have a genuine in it and it costs a fortune so don't mislead people with mislabled stuff. Edited November 28, 2006 by tvt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolexman Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 You know, I don't mind the Asian movements but what bigs the HELL out of me is the fact that dealers don't tell you they are Asian "replicas" of genuien ETA. In fact I have purchased watches that specificly said "genuine ETA XXX" and priced accordingly, just to later find out it was a fake. I give credit to those dealers who list "Asian 7750" for example but between all the copy "Swiss" Unitas movements in Pams (almost all of which are actually cheap ass fakes) and now this type of thing is is starting to bug me. Son't list the movement as "ETA 2892" when it simply is NOT that movement! I purchased a first gen PAM GMT that actually DOES have a genuine in it and it costs a fortune so don't mislead people with mislabled stuff. I agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Agreed. Similar to synthetic sapphire also known as glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureTime Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Agreed. Similar to synthetic sapphire also known as glass. But I usually write "Mineral Crystal" instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnboy777 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Well that is down to the buyer. Only time will tell if we are still wearing 45mm POs or railmaster XXLs in 2-3 years. In the 60s and 70s people wore flared trousers and then in the 80s you would not dare now look around, if you follow fashions then you will wear what is in fashion. personaly i still wear now what i wore when i was 20 as it suited me and my life style then and still does. Some people will find that they are a "pam man" to coin a phase and maybe always like the same thing, not also to forget brand loyalty even among reps! ... wait a moment, here - I'm still wearing flared trousers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eunomians Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Uuuuuuhhhh, what is the lugwidth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 You know, I don't mind the Asian movements but what bugs the HELL out of me is the fact that dealers don't tell you they are Asian "replicas" of genuine ETA. In fact I have purchased watches that specificly said "genuine ETA XXX" and priced accordingly, just to later find out it was a fake. I give credit to those dealers who list "Asian 7750" for example but between all the copy "Swiss" Unitas movements in Pams (almost all of which are actually cheap ass fakes) and now this type of thing is is starting to bug me. Don't list the movement as "ETA 2892" when it simply is NOT that movement! I purchased a first gen PAM GMT that actually DOES have a genuine in it and it costs a fortune so don't mislead people with mislabled stuff. Me too, there is no reason to mislead in this department alot of the people here will be very disapointed to find out the Chiss works is in fact full chinese. we should be in my opinion advetising this movement. After 2009 and ETAs become harder to get i think we will see alot more of these seagull works. How bad can there manufacturing prosess be? they can make a full working turbi for XXXXX sake! Maybe they could rep other works 3135 maybe??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I can't wait to see this on someone's wrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 I can't wait to see this on someone's wrist. Same here.. This is a EXTRA COOL photo but definately not how all of us will wear it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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