Berto504 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Thinking about purchasing this watch,would like to know if the price is right.....the price is 5000.00. The model number is 15233 and watch has 25 carats of diamonds. What is your estimate on value of this watch? Thanks! Edited December 16, 2013 by Berto504 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlydog Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 A quick check of this model shows prices that range anywhere from 2800 to 4600 in SS/gold; without any bling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto504 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 gonna post pictures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto504 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 pictures posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1680 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 $0 a two tone Day Date with 15233 ref number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto504 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) I was thinking the same thing! I searched the model number and dont see that model with date day anywhere. The guy has a appraisal and i will get it checked out b4 i purchase.Why will someone bling out a fake rolex,though? Edited December 16, 2013 by Berto504 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKTime Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Clasp screams fake and I don't think the Daydate ever came with a two tone band like this one appears to be from the back side. End links look funny too. I would run away from this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) I was thinking the same thing! I searched the model number and dont see that model with date day anywhere. The guy has a appraisal and i will get it checked out b4 i purchase.Why will someone bling out a fake rolex,though? I can't imagine that would ever happen .... Best to pop the caseback and check the movement and have an independant appraisal of the diamonds. My guess is they are fake too. The watch itself definitely is. Only other plausible explanaition is the original owner didn't know it was fake before having it blinged out. Regardless, the price alone screams fake. No way adding 25 carats of diamonds on a watch that would cost that without them is going to add up to a pricetag of $5,000 unless there is a divorce going on and one of the spouses is pi$$ed at the other. Edited December 16, 2013 by tomhorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM_ Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Run away! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berto504 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Just talked to my friend, a well respected jeweler in Houston,Tx. He told me alot of times people mix parts.... which isn't a good thing because it hurts the value! He told me to get it opened up and see if it checks out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKTime Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Just talked to my friend, a well respected jeweler in Houston,Tx. He told me alot of times people mix parts.... which isn't a good thing because it hurts the value! He told me to get it opened up and see if it checks out I can save you the time and effort by telling you it's fake. The lure of a great deal at a low price is what scammers count on to bait people in. If you can get a picture of the movement I'd love to see what it has in it. I'm guessing a dg2813. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Just talked to my friend, a well respected jeweler in Houston,Tx. He told me alot of times people mix parts.... which isn't a good thing because it hurts the value! He told me to get it opened up and see if it checks out With these (and DateJusts) he is correct. If you want to bling one out, it's easier (and cheaper) to get an aftermarket dial and/or bezel where the diamonds have already been set, and just replace the originals. It can hurt the value (depending on the quality of the work) but one can always put the gen parts back in when it comes time to sell. As I said before, cracking the caseback will tell you alot, but I'd also have the stones independantly appraised. They are probably fake too. Your jeweler friend should be able to help you sort it out. Edited December 16, 2013 by tomhorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Tom ,the big problem here is they didn't convert a regular DJ to a blinged out model with a diamond dial and bezel, they made it into a completely different watch, they made a DJ into a DD, and that's not easily convertible back to a DJ. I would run as fast as I could from this one. No telling what movement is in the watch, but it's not a genuine Day/Date Rolex movement. First off, the Day/Date was only made in gold, except for a few +/- 6 that were made in SS, but they are rarer and more desirable than any Gold D/D. the bracelet on this one is a fake SS President bracelet with stones. I would doubt that they are genuine diamonds. You aren't going to find anything with 25 carats of genuine diamonds for 5K. As said before this was a TT Datejust case that someone used to build a Day/Date. I don't care what the seller says about appraisals, they aren't worth the paper they are printed on unless they are from a certified appraiser. Some entity like GIA. Look at EBay, they sell jewelry all the time with inflated appraisals, that's a sucker hook!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 lol please fake as f@%# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomhorn Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Tom ,the big problem here is they didn't convert a regular DJ to a blinged out model with a diamond dial and bezel, they made it into a completely different watch, they made a DJ into a DD, and that's not easily convertible back to a DJ. I wasn't speaking about this piece specifically, I was referencing the comment made by his jeweler friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 the only value would be in the gen parts or genuine gemstones.The rest of it is personal taste....however nice this watch looks there are a lot of "aftermarket" mismatch parts on it. I would pass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmj Posted December 17, 2013 Report Share Posted December 17, 2013 Run, Run, Run, Run, Runaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 You really should consider buying a Rolex that's reference correct in all aspects. Dial, case, movement all match the reference number. IMHO you will not be taken very serious wearing that watch. You will appear to be over conpensating while wearing a genuine appropriate watch will you gain you the respect you are seeking. Plus with that much "bling" you could draw the wrong kind of people to you. On this specific watch pictured I'm gonna agree with what everyone is saying. This is most likely a fake at that price point. Anyways good luck and I hope you stay away from that particular watch. A few more thousand and you can find a nice used 18038 president with diamond dial and it will be very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsh Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 did rolex make oyster straps where the screws dont go all the way through ? notice how the links have no holes on the one side for the screws to penetrate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted December 20, 2013 Report Share Posted December 20, 2013 did rolex make oyster straps where the screws dont go all the way through ? notice how the links have no holes on the one side for the screws to penetrate ? I'm guessing there's not much Rolex on that watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazzie_99 Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 Screams fake to me, run away, far away from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mymanmatt Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 A quick check for you is to rotate the day wheel. Rolex rotates clockwise, while everything else, including eta rotate counter clockwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted December 24, 2013 Report Share Posted December 24, 2013 No 3135s rotate the same as eta only the older movements rotate counter clockwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irolexu Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 No 3135s rotate the same as eta only the older movements rotate counter clockwise Not true. A 2836-2/24 rotate the opposite of a 3135. A 3035 and eta will have the same hand rotations but not the same date rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceocorona Posted December 26, 2013 Report Share Posted December 26, 2013 To echo the many before me... Run away and fast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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