marrickvilleboy Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Hey guys, thanks for replies - I got offered another watch yesterday! Its a 16610 Submariner from 2006, I have been told. Comes with box and papers. Question for you guys - and I know this isn't the best picture but wanted to get your thoughts. I asked him to show the watch at the current time to prove it exists. However, I noticed it has a flat "s" which indicates a D-serial (which sets this to 2005 model)? Any experts can chime in here and let me know if this looks good? Price is just under U$4.8K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sputim Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Seems pretty fair in my eyes. Especially when it is in good condition. No box/papers would be a deal breaker for me though. Nevertheless, if you are sure that's gen and you won't sell it, why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyyammine Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Not without the papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceocorona Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 +1 on papers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krpster Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Third that. I think if you dig around TZ and WUS you can find some good benchmark data for how much they are going for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Too much for an incomplete set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 $4,500 tops with no papers...must be authenticated at an AD and checked against AD database for stolen watches.As well, may need a service and refinishing depending on condition.If all checks out and it's been serviced/refinished..$4,500.00 is fair....receipts for service are essential.If it needs servicing...$4,000.00 is fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wow.... I kind of agree with all of you guys but who is selling a M-serial 2008 submariner for $4K? I have scoured TRF eveything is north of $5K with ones with box and papers selling for $6K... i'm not sure if you guys are half dreaming regarding the "fair" price - seems unrealistic to be honest.... appreciate the replies of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I can buy gens all day long for $4500.00 with papers.....you need to know the right people,wheel and deal and have cash ready,in hand..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 hmm we must talk.... Anyone you could introduce here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Hey what's up man? Long time no see.Why would you want one with the ugly engraved rehaut? I think it was a real downgrade to perfection that was 16610.Go for an older example. That's my advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I coudnt agree more! its been a while - I have moved on from Omega now getting my hands dirty with the rolexes now which is more dangerous You still busy collecting now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By-Tor Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 You still busy collecting now?I haven't bought anything since 2010. Pretty happy with my gens & reps and no plans to buy anything new. At least not for now.Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam1977 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I just wholesaled the exact same watch with box and papers for 5k. 4.9k is really not a bad deal if the watch is in good shape. Papers and box does not matter very much to the average dealer. Obviously the watch is no longer under warranty so papers wont do much for you. Now to guys like us, papers & box might matter a little more, but honestly it doesnt really add much hard value to the watch. I say buy it. Its a good investment at that price. Obviously see if you can get him down on the price a little. But I know of a hand full of dealers here in the dallas are that would give me 4.8-4.9k on that watch wothout box and papers right now. Here is the M Serial with engraved rehaut that I just sold for 5k (the dealer I sold it to has it in his case for $6,100.00)Sent from my SPH-L720 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I haven't bought anything since 2010. Pretty happy with my gens & reps and no plans to buy anything new. At least not for now. Cheers. Yeah i've moved over to the genuine world last year. Only own 1 replica now - the 16610 submariner. I think once I get a genuine of that - I think i'm done.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6now Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 For a recent 2007 gen sub, most probability is that they still should be papers. You can haggle for a lesser price than $4.9 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I don't think the $4.9K price is too bad, but certainly a little less would be better. You could be due for a service, that would add a few hundred to the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhleez Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 You can get stiill find box complete with papers between 4.7-5k, no rehaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panerai153 Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 I would prefer to have the box and papers, but unfortunalely most of the folks who buy Rolex watches are not collectors, they are not watch savvy, and they are only interested in the watch. Folks move around, wives girlfriends ,cleaning people clean out closets, things get lost or thrown away. Honestly back when I started buying watches in the early 1970's, I didn't realize the importance of keeping the boxes and papers. Only after trading a submariner for a SeaDweller in the mid 70's, was told by a dealer, that if I was going to trade watches I needed to keep everything that came with the watch, from the box all the original paperwork including the sales receipt. I believe that you can look at recent sales, and se where the prices are. As Alligoat said, that watch is definitely getting very close to needing a service, so that needs to figure in somewhat in the pricing. Prices keep going up so putting off buying is only going to mean a higher price later. You can always try to do a little bargaining with the seller, but unless he is desperate to sell, probably isn't going to budge much. I also much prefer the older models with the non engraved rehaut. Any way you go, if you treat it nice, you can get your money back down the line if you decide to sell. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Many thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted January 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 thanks for replies - I got offered another watch yesterday! Its a 16610 Submariner from 2006, I have been told. Comes with box and papers. Question for you guys - and I know this isn't the best picture but wanted to get your thoughts. I asked him to show the watch at the current time to prove it exists. However, I noticed it has a flat "s" which indicates a D-serial (which sets this to 2005 model)? Any experts can chime in here and let me know if this looks good? Price is just under U$4.8K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted January 20, 2014 Report Share Posted January 20, 2014 Same pic as first one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yes I had revised the original post aswell to reflect the new offering... sorry for confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janeto72 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marrickvilleboy Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Dont think that commands a premium or possess "rare" qualities http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?191049-Flat-S-sub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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