denimhead Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 I know a few of the guys on here have picked up on the fact that the Cartel Boys introduced a revised case shape with better crown guards. These really are a fantastic base for franken projects. I wonder if a gen 1570 will fit?? I hope the price doesn't go uphttp://www.pf-818.com/index.php Enjoy! DH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneP Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 I tried a gen 1570 with the new cartel case I got from Sead. The movement fits & the stem lines up but it sits too high for the case back to screw in. Maybe a 1520 might fit better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denimhead Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 42 minutes ago, StoneP said: I tried a gen 1570 with the new cartel case I got from Sead. The movement fits & the stem lines up but it sits too high for the case back to screw in. Maybe a 1520 might fit better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Great to know Stonep, thanks for letting us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousin_hub Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Great For you which one is the best ootb between 5513, 5512, 1680 and 1665 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denimhead Posted March 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, cousin_hub said: Great For you which one is the best ootb between 5513, 5512, 1680 and 1665 ? Over to the experts. I guess I'd keep it simple maybe a classic 5513. no need to change date wheels etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 @denimhead@cousin_hub I would change a lot on all of them... But I guess the 5512/5513 is best since you can put a Vietnam-dial straight in (correct size 26mm). If I've understood it correctly the 1680 and 1665-cases take 26 mm dials which is wrong, as correct is 26,5mm. So a 5512/5513: - Add a Vietnam-dial - Add TC-hands - Add a good Pearl and Yuki-insert - Add an Athaya Crown+tube 700/702 - Some modding of the Crown guards - Change to a Clarks/Sternkreutz or best ClassicWatchParts crystal ... Nice! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denimhead Posted March 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, hologramet said: @denimhead@cousin_hub I would change a lot on all of them... But I guess the 5512/5513 is best since you can put a Vietnam-dial straight in (correct size 26mm). If I've understood it correctly the 1680 and 1665-cases take 26 mm dials which is wrong, as correct is 26,5mm. So a 5512/5513: - Add a Vietnam-dial - Add TC-hands - Add a good Pearl and Yuki-insert - Add an Athaya Crown+tube 700/702 - Some modding of the Crown guards - Change to a Clarks/Sternkreutz or best ClassicWatchParts crystal ... Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 @denimhead@cousin_hub I would change a lot on all of them... But I guess the 5512/5513 is best since you can put a Vietnam-dial straight in (correct size 26mm). If I've understood it correctly the 1680 and 1665-cases take 26 mm dials which is wrong, as correct is 26,5mm. So a 5512/5513: - Add a Vietnam-dial - Add TC-hands - Add a good Pearl and Yuki-insert - Add an Athaya Crown+tube 700/702 - Some modding of the Crown guards - Change to a Clarks/Sternkreutz or best ClassicWatchParts crystal ... Nice! Still have to drill out bigger lug holes, or? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 46 minutes ago, champagne-communist said: Still have to drill out bigger lug holes, or? Yup.. forgot that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champagnesky Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Btw what vietnamese dial do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 E.g. one of these: I have one for sale in case someones interested, drop me a PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
automatico Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 If these cases will accept a no date rolex 15xx it would be a home run for genuine movement projects cutting $500 to $1000+ off the price. Here are the 15xx movement thickness measurements again: 1520/30/60/70/80 no date 12.5 ligne (28.5mm) H = 5.75mm 1525/35/65/75 date 12.5 ligne (28.5mm) H = 6.30mm 1565/75 date/GMT 12.5 ligne (28.5mm) H = 6.47mm 1555/56 Day/Date 12.5 ligne (28.5mm) H = 7.03mm "I tried a gen 1570 with the new cartel case I got from Sead. The movement fits & the stem lines up but it sits too high for the case back to screw in. Maybe a 1520 might fit better." Did you try a 1570/75 date or no date mvt? If a 15xx date mvt is a little bit too thick, a no date might work. I have a 1520 with 26mm Yuki 5513 dial on it along with MBK, Yuki, and DW case backs. If you want to send the case to me I can try different combos and see what might work...or I could buy the case if you are not going to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Sorry to divert but would a 26mm minq dial fit in a mbw 5512 case,these cartel ones look good for the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Seamaster Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 The new cartel cases are absolutely great for modding for the bucks imo.. Have a look at my 1680. 1st unmodded- only aged 2nd modded, aged with 702 crown, relumed dial and some more case shaving. Cheers Phil -sent from my iphone using tapatalk Men who guide the destinies of the world wear Rolex watches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denimhead Posted March 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 10 hours ago, Mr Seamaster said: The new cartel cases are absolutely great for modding for the bucks imo.. Have a look at my 1680. 1st unmodded- only aged 2nd modded, aged with 702 crown, relumed dial and some more case shaving. Cheers Phil -sent from my iphone using tapatalk Men who guide the destinies of the world wear Rolex watches That looks fantastic Phil, well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Seamaster Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Ah forgot.. Clarks 25-127 is also installed. Next for me is an cartel 5513 and an 1675- as i said, great pieces for the bucks! -sent from my iphone using tapatalk Men who guide the destinies of the world wear Rolex watches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousin_hub Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Have the 1675 been changed too ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 On 3/18/2016 at 4:11 PM, Mr Seamaster said: The new cartel cases are absolutely great for modding for the bucks imo.. Have a look at my 1680. 1st unmodded- only aged 2nd modded, aged with 702 crown, relumed dial and some more case shaving. Cheers Phil -sent from my iphone using tapatalk Men who guide the destinies of the world wear Rolex watches got a side shot? would love to see the case and bezel thickness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Seamaster Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Have a wso bezel assembly incoming.. Cheers Phil -sent from my iphone using tapatalk Men who guide the destinies of the world wear Rolex watches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 3/19/2016 at 5:43 PM, Mr Seamaster said: Have a wso bezel assembly incoming.. Cheers Phil -sent from my iphone using tapatalk Men who guide the destinies of the world wear Rolex watches thats a very decent base to work from. that one is modded i take it? cgs, lug holes. what i would attempt is thinning the bezel ring, top could lose a bit of thickness, dull the teeth out a bit and shave the bottom slightly. is the beveling weak or did you just "age" it softer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hologramet Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 2016-03-18 at 8:02 PM, ronin007 said: Sorry to divert but would a 26mm minq dial fit in a mbw 5512 case,these cartel ones look good for the money Yeah, it fits straight in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin007 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Seamaster Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 Yeah that one is modded: -case reshape -702 crown/tube -raffles hands (relumed) -cartel dial (relumed) -caseback shaved Beveling is very weak, but i'll do some more work on the case asap... Bezel is cartel, but have an wso complete bezel assembly incoming. Bezel insert is also on the way to me. Cheers Phil -sent from my iphone using tapatalk Men who guide the destinies of the world wear Rolex watches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendota Explorer Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 These really look great. I'm on the Perfect Clones mailing list and Josh recently sent out a big email announcement advertising all of the "new" vintage pieces. Are you guys buying the 2813 versions or the ETA versions? Is everything else the same with the two, just different hands and movements/dial feet? Who supplies those Vietnamese dials? Are they readily available? Rough budget? Those look fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username here Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 How is the bracelet? 93150? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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