Spoooooonz Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Am I right in assuming that the casework, bracelet and dial on the much cheaper asian version are the same as on the ETA? In essence a sapphire crystal with AR coating and ETA movement add $200 to the price. If that is the case the asian version seems like a much better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyster Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Am I right in assuming that the casework, bracelet and dial on the much cheaper asian version are the same as on the ETA? In essence a sapphire crystal with AR coating and ETA movement add $200 to the price. If that is the case the asian version seems like a much better deal. I agree and have just ordered an Asian SFSO, some would strongly disagree saying that because the gen has such an obvious AR that the ETA version is worth the extra cost, I've went for a white dial one and if the lack of AR bothers me I will look in to having it coated. If the movement dies I will pick up another from cousins. As ever, you pays your money and you takes your choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Is it possible to swap out the Asian movement for an ETA movement? The 2836s aren't too expensive are they ? At least not $200 extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-aussie Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 thats right,.. ETA movements are not that expensive. I am waiting for my blue dial aisan movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 I've said it before and I'll say it again. The AR makes this watch. Not getting the ARed version seems, to me at least, unwise. Luckily, we're all allowed different opinions and there are a lot of happy owners of the Asian version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 11, 2007 Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Having worn the gen in the Ad the other week one of these with out AR would be like ? well like something missing an important part. If the choise was just movement then i would be all over the asian as it is i will have to save a bit to get the ETA just because of that AR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdavis Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 thats right,.. ETA movements are not that expensive. I am waiting for my blue dial aisan movement. No that isn't right,.......a new Eta 2824-2 will set you back just over $100 and then you must purchase new hands. The Asian 2813 runs less than $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris5264 Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Well,,,as a real AR freak I have the blue dial eta with AR on the way, however, I must admit that the very cheap Asian version (i.e., the two used on sale) seems very attractive, I almost bought one in fact.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corgi Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 AR is an important feature to giving the watch a "genuine" feel and look. Without it, you must understand that anybody in the know will smell something suspicious. I personally believe the ETA movement is a much better choice than the Asian counterpart. Let's face it, quality control... you can't beat that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 i have an ETA 7750 chrono avenger black dial with zero AR and sometimes there is so much glare that you cant see the hands or the time LOL. It makes it really hard to read most of the time because the crystal is just so very shiney. My Breitling Bently has "light AR" and the difference is amazing! Its not that cool blue looking AR but it stops most all the glare and you can see the dial perfectly in any lighting. Its pretty impressive. I wonder when Rolex is gunna figure out what AR is? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mezzanine Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 It drives me nuts, the price gap between the asian SFSO without AR and the ETA version that has it. I keep asking myself- is it worth it to pay $200 for an AR coated crystal? I realize that the bulk of the cost is contained in the ETA, but there's still a significant margin difference, irrespective of the cost of the movement and AR. The premium is what bugs me, not the additional cost of the swiss movement and AR coating. When the swiss comes down to $300 shipped with the bracelet and leather strap, I might bite. Problem is, it might not ever come down that far.... The idea of spending near $400 for that watch is out of my range of acceptable value, being that the gen is worth $1300 used. I really think that the rep community is in trouble. I'm not saying that reps are in trouble...I'm saying that the community is in trouble. It's becoming increasingly difficult to moderate the acceptability of pricing on these watches. I think the market is going to get bigger, and I think that the relevance of these communities is going to suffer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 if it drives you nuts, complain to one of the cartel dealers (josh, andrew, king). its their fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italiano17771 Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 i agree that AR is an important aspect in a replica breitling. after receiving a couple watches with great AR it is now becoming mandatory for me. BUT for an extra $200 i think its crazy. yes i know about the mvmt difference, but i have heard complaints of people having troubles with the eta as well. my solution...buy a white dial asian version. a black dial will have MUCH more reflection as oppose to a white dial. i have had navitimers with black and white dials and the difference in the glare is huge. if you dont have or dont want to spend the extra cash on AR my suggestion would be to go with a white dial. cant beat it for $130 shipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Even a Asian SFSO with A/R and a new movement (done by western companies) will costs you less than the ETA version lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Well said Slay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 The Gen SFSO has real good AR especialy under show room lights, you see it stright away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highflyingclive Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Even a Asian SFSO with A/R and a new movement (done by western companies) will costs you less than the ETA version lol Great siggy, Slay. I expect that single-handed, you will drive the cartel into the ground. Although I prefer to think of it as a consortium... But that aside, now that you are on the Consortium blacklist, tell us, please... who is your favoured dealer? I think we should be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italiano17771 Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Great siggy, Slay. thats great!!! didnt realize that was his signature...thought it was the post. anything we can do to keep the prices down count me in!! hopefully this is being done on all the forums. dont see as much of this discussion on any others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 (edited) Great siggy, Slay. I expect that single-handed, you will drive the cartel into the ground. Although I prefer to think of it as a consortium... But that aside, now that you are on the Consortium blacklist, tell us, please... who is your favoured dealer? I think we should be told. What does it matter who Slay's facored dealer is? Whoever they are, they are no doubt more trustworthy than your beloved Cartel dealers. Just because you are happy to tollerate the lies of the Cartel, don't expect everyone else to feel the same way. Infact, given how 'over the road', you mentioned having influence over contructions in China (I forget how you phrased it) your own support of them could be considered rather biassed... Maybe if more people had sigs and attitudes like Slay's, then the Cartel would take their over-priced watches elsewhere, as people would realize that they are simply not honest to deal with. Edited August 12, 2007 by TeeJay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Great siggy, Slay. I expect that single-handed, you will drive the cartel into the ground. Although I prefer to think of it as a consortium... But that aside, now that you are on the Consortium blacklist, tell us, please... who is your favoured dealer? I think we should be told. I think I have been on the blacklist of Joshua for quite a while, after I told everybody how he was trying to scam people he thought were noobs and didnt know better. I dont have a "favourite" dealer. If you like to know which dealer I enjoy communicating with, its eddielee, no doubt. Its been a very LONG time since I bought from him though. Everyone is free to make his own choice, I'm just trying to let people know who they are financing with their purchase. If you find out eddielee is running some sort of scam, feel free to let everyone know! We have a bunch of great dealers. I dont think there is 'the best' dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I think I have been on the blacklist of Joshua for quite a while, after I told everybody how he was trying to scam people he thought were noobs and didnt know better. I dont have a "favourite" dealer. If you like to know which dealer I enjoy communicating with, its eddielee, no doubt. Its been a very LONG time since I bought from him though. Everyone is free to make his own choice, I'm just trying to let people know who they are financing with their purchase. If you find out eddielee is running some sort of scam, feel free to let everyone know! We have a bunch of great dealers. I dont think there is 'the best' dealer. I like your style. Any chance you could PM me the contents of the sig (with tags) so I can display it as well? I wonder which of us Clive will start insulting first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slay Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I wonder when it comes to their attention and they try to use their "power" in pressuring me to remove this. I remember a certain pugwash getting banned on another forum for starting a beef with them. ever since his ambitious effort vanished almost completely i dont know how to send the plain code via pm. if i just paste it, it will be converted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I wonder when it comes to their attention and they try to use their "power" in pressuring me to remove this. I remember a certain pugwash getting banned on another forum for starting a beef with them. ever since his ambitious effort vanished almost completely i dont know how to send the plain code via pm. if i just paste it, it will be converted Ahh, that's true, that's the problem with code... I'll see what I can do... Indeed, they certainly like to throw their weight around, I'll put something up and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I wonder which of us Clive will start insulting first He who spells the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 He who spells the worst. In that case, I shall use my best spelling abilities Out of curiousity, is Edge actually banned from the forum, or did he simply leave because of what happened when he revealed further details of the Cartel's lies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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