TwoTone Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 One of the primary purposes of this Forum is to protect people from being ripped off... From Scam Sites and from Scam people within our Forum... One of the Scams that people use here within the Forum is with "Trades"... Obviously with Trades no money exchanges hands... I send you a Watch... But you don't send me one... If you're contacted by a member with low or no Post count... Or who's fairly new to the Forum... PLEASE use caution... Ask for "Forum" references... Check with the references... Ask around to people you know... BE CAREFUL... We do our best to keep our community safe... But YOU need to be smart... And proactive in your due diligence... Best rule of thumb is to only do business with established members... Double T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gioarmani Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuel Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I cannot imagine doing a trade like this with anyone other than a senior & well-known member, but if these types of transactions occur frequently, why not employ a 3rd (trusted) RWG member to act as an escrow party? The 2 trading members would pay the escrow a small fee to receive & inspect both items, which, after passing inspection, the escrow would then send on their merry ways to the intended receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltatahoe Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 good warning doubleT -- seems like common sense, but a good reminder not to let the desire for a new watch cloud sound judgement. deltatahoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pix Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Long time ago I proposed the following for trade : use PayPal as a third party. Define a certain amount that each one is able to pay to the other. Then once both members have paid the other, send the watch. In case of problem, there's the ultimate solution of filling a complaint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 I cannot imagine doing a trade like this with anyone other than a senior & well-known member, but if these types of transactions occur frequently, why not employ a 3rd (trusted) RWG member to act as an escrow party? The 2 trading members would pay the escrow a small fee to receive & inspect both items, which, after passing inspection, the escrow would then send on their merry ways to the intended receivers. Why not also do this as a precautionary measure for noobs who are buying/selling watches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikellem Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Totally agree! Thanks for the reminder TT, -MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victoria Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 Thanks, agreed. I'm wary, even scared, of trading now. Was chatting about this to another member, but why are we seeing what seems to be a lot more scams/bad transactions recently? Worrisome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMK000 Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 What ???? Is BASE back again (...just kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuiceMaker Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 i think it's a little too easy to become a member on this forum... especially when people can find this forum through google search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 i think it's a little too easy to become a member on this forum... Yeah, let's ban anyone that joined after Oct 2007. It's only once people are inside that they want to close the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuiceMaker Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 yea let's do that... let's ban everyone who joined after Oct. 2007... that will work!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 How about not only banning everyone who joined after October 2007, but what about everyone else who freeloads off the wealth of information provided by the site? Or what about automatically banning everyone who starts their first post with "who has the best..." or "which one should i..." This might come across as fascist, but why not allow entry by limiting access ONLY to the supporters (collectors/staff/paying members) and shun everyone else out (NO SOUP FOR YOU!). Surely that would weed out the scammers and spammers if the staff has contact info on every member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magagne Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 I have one member that it come to my mind if I want to trade, and he's pretty popular here and on RWI. It's not a scammer base on my reading/story about him, he just don't has a good sens of communication when it comes to do BUSINESS (buy/sell), and sometime, he screw things. A lot. My comment here are base on MY experience, and some other member too who go trough trading with this member. This member can lost your time. Not deliberate, but just because he don't really know how to do straight business. Anyway... My overall suggestion is, be SHORT and DIRECT when it come to do trading, be very CLEAR with you intention. Always ship with tracking number and/or take insurance. KEEP YOUR INVOICE OF POSTAL COMPANY UNTIL the package was receive. Force seller to provide tracking, etc. Like other member suggest, use PAYPAL, in that way you can do a complaint (recently I use this for an item on ebay, and it's work perfectly, I never receive package, never had tracking, seller was never be able to proof me, and paypal too, that he ship it, I win, this crook receive bad feedback, and that's it). Never accept story about life of your seller/buyer, justification of any kinds. Good liar will always give you some good justification. Business is business when we do trading. So even with a "popular" member, we need to do our homework, read some post in forum, and in trading section, here, but on other forum too. Good luck/be careful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoTone Posted February 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Good liar will always give you some good justification BINGO! Double T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carlsbadrolex Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 I guess I have been more lucky in trades than in buying from this site. I have three trades with members (I still dont consider myself a veteran of this forum, and neither were they) and all three trades went flawlessly. Now buying from here has been a challenge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magagne Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 BINGO! Double T Trust me Double T, I'm now immunize from all kind of justifications after some trade (ebay, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAHLER Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 ...or let's ban google&yahoo bots from board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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