Willith Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Since this seemed to be a popular topic on the sales forum, I thought I would bring it out here for an open discussion. How do you all feel about straps made from exotic (or cute) animals? Would you buy a strap made from: Buffalo (Bison) Stingray Shark Elephant Horse Cow (calf) Goat Alligator Crocodile I have or have straps made from cow, horse, shark, elephant, croc, gator and buffalo. Does that make me a bad person? I have different feelings on some of the exotic animals, like the elephant. I guess if it was "collected" legally then I don't feel bad about the use of the whole animal. What I don't like to see is an animal used for a small part and thrown away, shark fins come to mind. I also love horses, but they do make a nice leather strap too and I know in some countries they eat horse (not in the US). Anyway, I figured there would be a lot of opinions on this and I want people to be able to discuss this too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerco Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Hi Willith, Buffalo (Bison) NO Stingray NO Shark NO Elephant NO Horse Yes Cow (calf) Yes Goat Yes Alligator NO Crocodile NO Why ? Because cows, horses & goats are bread for human consumption. The leather is a rest product. the others are species who belong in the wild. I am not a environmental nuthead, but that's my opinion. Gerco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Aah, the fur coat dilemma. If you or your you're wife wears one there is your answer. I am against killing off rare species otherwise I don't give it a thought. Of course, I only like leather, rubber, croc and alligator for watch straps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Can I have a poodle strap ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 I have already chosen to wear MooCroc and would wear other faux hides if I really liked the look, but there are some animals that I'd not want to wear. I don't even have a strict opinion and would not refuse a second-hand watch that came on a gator strap, but I'd probably nort wear the gator. I suppose it boils down to "Would I eat it?" for me, apart from Camel that I'd not eat, but I dislike the bloody things and have no desire to protect them. Buffalo (Bison) - Probably Stingray - No Shark - Yes Elephant - No Horse - No Cow (calf) - Yes Goat - Yes (but why would I?) Alligator - No Crocodile - No Snake - No Lizard - No Camel - Yes Ostrich - Probably Whale/Dolphin - No Fish Leather - Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jraines87 Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 My favorite is the baby seal band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Puppy and kitten-skin for me: furry-side out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KB Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 Yes well I have a hankering for a nice white strap so I've been doing a little breeding of my own.... Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Ken, have you considered Koala-skin straps? And wow, those cute little black noses: bet they're just like shell cordovan... Let me know when you've got some prototypes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Only if people shows this kind of concern about war and people killing each other this world sure would be a great place, don't you think? Bigger things people, bigger things. Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willith Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Because cows, horses & goats are bread for human consumption. The leather is a rest product. the others are species who belong in the wild. I am not a environmental nuthead, but that's my opinion. Gerco Alligators are bread for their hides and meat in the US (Louisiana). I'm guessing that other species like ostrich and maybe snakes could be considered bread for "consumption" of one sort or another. I don't know if they can have farm raised stingrays too, but I guess it's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronus Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 What straps do cannibals use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Only if people shows this kind of concern about war and people killing each other this world sure would be a great place, don't you think? Bigger things people, bigger things. Diego Bigger things depend on smaller details. You can't have one without the other. Respect for life is meaningless if it doesn't encompass all life. Now pass me a beer and a slice of dead cow with french fries: nobody's perfect, right?* *(see 'Coda' below) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerco Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Only if people shows this kind of concern about war and people killing each other this world sure would be a great place, don't you think? Bigger things people, bigger things. Diego awareness starts small..... yes, with the strap on your wrist. As an individual you can make a small contribution. By the way: I am not involved in an war, don't kill people & don't eat my neighbour, or his cat for breakfast. So my small contribution is: not wearing fur & buying items that are made of exotic species. To me there is no difference between killing Rhino's because some idiots think they can have a better sex life with the powdergrind Rhinohorn & killing other exotic species because their skin looks nice for boots, wallets........and straps..... But it is just my humble opinion Gerco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 If it looks good on my wrist i don`t care what it is made off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 * Coda, for Gerco, Diego and Mahler: I The winter evening settles down With smell of steaks in passageways. Six o'clock. The burnt-out ends of smoky days. And now a gusty shower wraps The grimy scraps Of withered leaves about your feet And newspapers from vacant lots; The showers beat On broken blinds and chimney-pots, And at the corner of the street A lonely cab-horse steams and stamps. And then the lighting of the lamps. II The morning comes to consciousness Of faint stale smells of beer From the sawdust-trampled street With all its muddy feet that press To early coffee-stands. With the other masquerades That time resumes, One thinks of all the hands That are raising dingy shades In a thousand furnished rooms. III You tossed a blanket from the bed, You lay upon your back, and waited; You dozed, and watched the night revealing The thousand sordid images Of which your soul was constituted; They flickered against the ceiling. And when all the world came back And the light crept up between the shutters, And you heard the sparrows in the gutters, You had such a vision of the street As the street hardly understands; Sitting along the bed's edge, where You curled the papers from your hair, Or clasped the yellow soles of feet In the palms of both soiled hands. IV His soul stretched tight across the skies That fade behind a city block, Or trampled by insistent feet At four and five and six o'clock And short square fingers stuffing pipes, And evening newspapers, and eyes Assured of certain certainties, The conscience of a blackened street Impatient to assume the world. I am moved by fancies that are curled Around these images, and cling: The notion of some infinitely gentle Infinitely suffering thing. Wipe your hand across your mouth, and laugh; The worlds revolve like ancient women Gathering fuel in vacant lots. Now let's see who knows who wrote this (it weren't me). Pugwash, C-Stone, Willith and Jjah are excluded from the competition. Not sure if they have books in Oz, so I guess Ken is ok... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Pugwash, C-Stone, Willith and Jjah are excluded from the competition. Not sure if they have books in Oz, so I guess Ken is ok... I believe they have an oral tradition down-under. I heard their version of this work and it started like this: It was t-shirt weather and drinkin' hour. The barbies stank of beef. Beer time. Did I mention it was beer time? Someone sprays a tinny, and it dampens the sand ... Oh, and they said it was written as a prelude for the toilets or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Oeh,oeh, can i play too please. "pointing finger in the air and waving my arm" I believe they have an oral tradition down-under. I heard their version of this work and it started like this: It was t-shirt weather and drinkin' hour. The barbies stank of beef. Beer time. Did I mention it was beer time? Someone sprays a tinny, and it dampens the sand ... Oh, and they said it was written as a prelude for the toilets or something. Hilarious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 If it looks good on my wrist i don`t care what it is made off. so cruel...but sooo true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 "I am moved by fancies that are curled Around these images, and cling: The notion of some infinitely gentle Infinitely suffering thing." Commie [censored]. Now let's get back to watchez.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadog13 Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 (edited) this little thing could be used for making one strap...and it would be so sweet to have it on the wrist rather than on the finger... Edited July 17, 2006 by dadog13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryyannon Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 this little thing could be used for making one strap...and it would be so sweet to have it on the wrist rather than on the finger... Can't see the image! Let me guess....humm..... It's Monica Bellucci's..... no, never mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
out2lnch Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Hi Willith, Buffalo (Bison) NO Stingray NO Shark NO Elephant NO Horse Yes Cow (calf) Yes Goat Yes Alligator NO Crocodile NO Why ? Because cows, horses & goats are bread for human consumption. The leather is a rest product. the others are species who belong in the wild. I am not a environmental nuthead, but that's my opinion. Gerco I'm against killing of wild or endangered animals to make articles of clothing, but I figure if the animal is being killed for food, then it is fine to use as much as possible (not sure about the whole mounting of heads on the wall thing though). As far as I know, no one hunts elephant for food, but they are killed for people wanting a piece of nature, as it were. It's hard to argue that it's not a shame that an endangered species is being further threatened by people wanting especially supple purses, pants, studded suspenders etc. To add to your list, I know of a buffalo farm, as well as an ostrich farm, so those can be considered farmed animals too. Of course, this assumes that the animal is being farmed for food and the skins are used for other purposes and therefore excludes most fur-farms that breed the animal for skinning only. It's a fine line, and someone will have a wise-ass remark about pet goldfish, koala bears or something equally ridiculous making great straps to annoy those of us that care about such things, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion I guess, even if it's wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I don't wear exotic leather straps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alextor Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Puppy and kitten-skin for me: furry-side out. Panda and bald eagle for me (feathers included)...protect the cows! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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