Pugwash

From what I've seen, serving US Presidents don't like to wear fancy watches. Once they're out of office, all bets are off.

Have I mentioned my little Scottish village runs off spring water? Yes, pure spring water comes out of my tap. Yes, I realise it's not relevant, but I had to gloat somewhere.

Ok, Corgi. You can put your proper avatar/banners back now.

Ok, I was just checking it wasn't a front-loader. You're going to have to do the turning thing like everyone else said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKf58KzyAsg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDCdkSTFZmw The tale should be somewhere on those clips, I hope.

Yay, someone other than me will have a Pugged watch!

By that, he meant it'd not make his balls ache. Long story ... There's an 18 month waiting list for the DB9, with people selling them as soon as they get them to people willing to pay more to jump the queue. Do you think this practice were possible if the cars were tailor-made? Think of the resale value of a car you had to wear platform shoes to drive because it was made for Herman Munster. Anyway, to use your hot-rodders as an example, what makes Boyd Coddington's time worth more than a Ford engineer? I mean his time is worth more and that is reflected in his prices, but why? Now apply that to Rolex's chief designer and Omega's chief designer. They're obviously higher paid than the guy that designs Orsa or Oris watches and that salary has to be passed on to the final price of the watch. The Planet Ocean instantly has more value because Omega used more market research, costing them more R&D that simply cannot be actively applied to the manufacturing cost as parts and labour.

The best available mainstream replica is the ETA-powered Breitling Superocean Steelfish. No debates, no discussions, that's the answer. Sure, there are a lot of damned good replicas out there right now, like the IWC 3717 or the so-called Ultimate Planet Ocean, but hands down, the Steelfish tops them. Don't take my word for it exclusively, though. Read some reviews.

If using Aston Martin as an example doesn't fit, try Jaguar vs Ford. They're made in the same factory, in some cases with the same parts, yet a part coming out with a Jaguar badge on it is more valuable than a piece with a Ford badge. ps. The DB9 isn't 'custom made' as much as 'sold with optional extras'. It's like getting an IWC with a rubber strap or paying a bit extra for the Croc or the Stainless. They don't measure your legs and shape the cockpit around them, so dispel that illusion immediately.

Take it as a compliment.

Can you show us the front of the watch?

Angus, there is a problem with your designation. The IW371928 (aka IWC 3719-028) is the SS Aquatimer with the SS Bracelet. What you're showing here is the IW371933 (aka the IWC 3719-033) as it's the SS Aquatimer with the Rubber strap.

Um ... that's capitalism. Everything is worth exactly what someone is willing to pay, it's the definition of value. It's how things work, apparently. What makes an Aston-Martin or Jaguar worth more than a Ford Mondeo? Made by the same sort of people out of the same components and raw materials, yet one is without a doubt worth more than the other. You collect replicas because of this value, one way or another.

Now I have to kill you. :Jumpy: This replica stopped me selling everything to buy the genuine.

I agree. If one Replica is $200 and the corresponding genuine is $2000 but another replica is the same $200 but the corresponding genuine is $4000, should I get the copy of the cheaper watch or the copy of the more expensive watch? One is "a better savings" and the other is "more realistic to my income". I pay the price I think a replica is worth, regardless of the price of the genuine, unless of course, the price of a genuine is within striking distance of the price of a replica.

Ah, I've been waiting for this one! How's the AR?

Cheap Tourbillon? I'm in

Sure, but I believe the Selitas used here are SW200s, not 2824s. If the movement in the uPO is a Sellita 2824, it's as ETA as it needs to be as it's made from ETA parts.

No, they don't.

I would consider it if it came with a sterile dial. I'd love an un-named Turbo just for the coolness of the complication.

Fair enough. So no equivalent substitutes then.

I'd not be upset about getting a Selita, to be honest. In 5 years, when your watch needs a service, spares will be more common than for ETAs.

I just hope the date wheels are still available...

Sounds like a similar problem the ratchet spring on my 2846 ... ps. I wasn't really offended by the lack of using my NATO post.