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by the way if you want to get in touch with PT uset the email link in his site.

About 18 moths ago i would look at panerai and wonder what it was all about, ugly sqare, plain and boreingly all the same, Now i have 4 and a 5th on the way.

I think that 90% of this forum can vouch for the quality from pecious time have a look in his bit of the forum

I love the whiteness of the new dial, far better than the false looking rep yellowed dial

Wilkomen aus deutchland! ole chap

Pretty much any local watch repair person would be able to help if they are rep freindly, where are you?

If you are in Uk you need look no further than this link, his service is top and fast!

If you are in EU i would recoment CousinsUK

What movement is it?

Linked to in my post, the underlined words ziggy here

Ahhhhhh thats a shame.

On the way west make sure you check out one of the oldest time mesurement devices!

But this one looks preeeeety good tooooooo

Naaaa meatball with philadelfia on itailian.

When you are in Uk try to find an old country pub that does not belong to a chain like weather spoons, they some times have some of the best lunches you could think of, I was in a small vilage outside Andover earlyer this year witha pub called the black swan, i enjoyed a roast beef and stilton sandwich washed down with a couple of pints of pedigree. the food in the chain places is generaly good but it is like macdonalds, the same every where. You have to go off thebeaten track to find old pubs but they are worth it.

Which Pam are you getting, the film i linked to is for a radiomir case and the spring bars are for the luminor/fiddy cases ect

Who cares! RWG works happy with that!

Well i for one would be happy with a 26j selitas as it is a known factory and probeberly more swiss than ETA, the big question here is what is this movement. if i understand it fully it is a copy of the ETA not made in and ETA factory in Asia, as opposed to and ETA made in and ETA factory in Asia. The only thing i remember seeing like this is the 2824 copy as rewiewd by Ziggy here. The main difference stamps aside between these movements is the balence kock jewel holding spring. The question for Ziggy when he gets one is, Are the parts compatable with ETA? does it look like it was made on ETA machines, tooling marks ect? Also as Gio asked how many have been sold as swiss? would we know? and how can we find out? should we care if they are sold at a reasonable price? Well i can answer the last question my self, yes we should care, if it is asian then tell me dont try to bluff or lie to me. But i think we have been there. Enough!

A great report Vic.

looks great but the Cal 17 RS with the running seconds @ 3 might cause some headaches.

I think you will be lucky to find any one in the world willing to work on the seconds at 6 7750, I know that Ziggy has worked on some but not sure if he will still due to the secs at 6 and the problems you can have with it. I have the same watch by the way and love it, mine works perfectly. The best bet is to wait untill Ziggy gets back from his holidays and send him a PM. I know that if mine went wrong he would be my first and only choise for this, and i would have to get in the q for work.

if you cant find any thing to do with Ziggy then you are right, Not very well indeed, try looking here

River was selling a sub with a non stamped 2824 type works a while ago, i am sure ziggy did a break down as there was a race to get one to ziggy as he said he would service it for free when i took it apart. But as Doc says these have been around for a while and i agree, who knows what we have had in the past. i too would be interested in a 2984 or a rolli movement!

Waht was the tell that is was a copy? any thing that we could all see?