lanikai

Joshua wants to replace the entire watch after seeing the pic.. i was asking for the tabs .. but i think both of you are correct .. the cuts in the bezel do appear to be quite "off" line ... thank you Anton, Lanikai

the dust may be from watch to watch so i wouldn't say that is completely solved the day date seems better but i think after servicing it would be 100 Ok i will post u pics later when I get home .. (if no one has done so by then)

genuine version is serated though and on some models polished on the top of the bezel .. but this is still a nice looking watch and a great price. add on .. sorry Pix I think I just duplicated what you said.. time to sleep ..

can you tell me if your tabs (pearl excluded) look like a better fit than the ones on my blackbird ?? the 5 and W and E .. seem a better fit on your BB... that is a little uplifting as I am asking my collector if these can be replaced ... it is rather obvious ... thank you lanikai

the serations on the ceramic bezel does amazing visual effects in the light

OK .. Ry.. what should we do then???

Yes ,.. i agree with you on having to restructure the presentation of the forum, that would be the purpose of subscribing, but that would be putting the cart in front of the horse right now... I don't know TJ part of the subsciption would be to enjoy the forum as a whole .. remember, my suggestion here is not to limit or hinder anyone ,.. but so the Forum as we now it with the current admin and members can move forward and not live month to month .. we actually want to thrive ... and if the social aspect comes with the subscription then I think it is well worth it.... this whole deal is about watches.... but you and I can disagree without being disagreable and have rights to our own opinions and spiritual beliefs ... and not just keep our discussions solely about watches.. i consider you a friend and it has been my pleasure to get to know you through this forum .. Maybe we should think of it as paying rent in cyberspace.....think if this were a regular land line .. long distance phone service... YIKES..$$$$$$$

. Point taken TJ... but that is why they need not renew their subscription, if that were the case... but when people don't have to pay for something then they are apt not to use it as much .. who knows we may see an increase in usage if people were given the choice to become a subsciber or not... the main thing is to keep an open mind (works for me as well) when trying to come up with solutions to new "challenges" ... I enjoy discsussing and debating different ideas .. at times it is a form of "entertainment" Say the subscription rate was 15.00 usd per year .. that would equate to a little over 4 cents a day per year... is that taking advantage of anyone ??? and at 20 usd that would be about 5 cents per day... I think that is totally fair given the price of gas and other commodities

I believe the term "VIP" .. was in place with good intention but may have out lived it's real meaning as growth is inevitable ... our mindset is with that "class" word.... in my business if Gannett say's he or she is VIP.. what they are saying is don't F--K U- ......

I believe this would amount to "CROSSING THE LINE" ... which I believe the majority of the membership would never want to see happen ..

I am not meaning to say what you are pointing out is wrong.... but let me play "devils advocate" POSH... P.ort O.ver S.tarboard H.ole ... in the day's of luxury Liners ... this was the optimum berth for travel ...cost a lot too..LOL .. hence the terminology .. POSH Let's for a minute loose the "VIP" label as this in other areas of business would identify people who are given "special" treatment .. let's me use the term "subscriber.. "subscribers" are given a product and service in which they "choose" to pay for .. they are not "rewarded" ... the newspaper industry gives out "samples or Promotional copies" to people they would like to see subscribe to their editions .... 1 week n/c or 3 months for the price of 2 ... after this time the people are given the opportunity to subscibe or not... their choice .. Gannett put in 8 million dollars to free subscriptions when we were going head to head with a rival newpaper .. in the hopes of securing subscribers.. what do subscibers pay for ??.. in reality they are paying for information ... news and sale ads .. clasifieds and stock reports, entertainment .... no one is "taking " anything away from . Non subscribers .. as it is their choice to subscribe or not.. the "VIP's" should not be thought of as "rewarded" for donating.. this is maybe what needs to be looked into .. or the word "supporter" ... i rather like the term... Subscribing Member..... the areas that you would find for subscribing members would be left up to admin. My thoughts would be that whatever is needed to make value buy's and everything that is inclusive of this would be in these sections again the rates for the subscription would be nominal.... 10 to 15 usd a year .. and if it really came down to it I would still "donate" if the need arouse... and when I have donated these last couple of months .. does that mean I am "sponsoring" the members who don't want to .. not that they can't afford it but because they may be waiting for others to do it or are just appethetic ??? So in other words.. am I being "penalized" because I am paying for anothers membership ?? I don't think this way,.. but what is good for the goose is good for the gander in other words .. referring to VIP's being "rewarded" Remember .. another member pointed out the fact that the PC your viewing this on cost money ..and I may add your internet connection has a monthly fee .. come on .. a cup of coffee would pay for a good part of the "subscription" ... we're not talking about a person who is going to take food off his or her family table are we?? I think this is a democracy,.. you are given the "choice" of subscribing" ... when you join a country club a lot of the membership dues go to cover maintanence of the golf course..did you know that golf course maintanence cost upward of 100,000.00 US dollars per month.... some less but some a lot more. When you join an Elite C. Club... you think they accept everyone.??? that's not very democratic is it ??.. some don't accept Women .. and most you have to have a significant social standing and a Lot of Money.... When you go to a Public Library.. although you think it's free it is not... our taxes pay for the funding ... the roads we drive on need to be funded...but we still call our country a democracy ... Europe is more socialistic in their medical and housing issues... So with all this said .. I do not feel that anyone is being rewarded or "punished" for choosing to "subscribe" or not.. because everyone is given the choice to do whatever they want. and if they can afford to save a substantial amount of money by using this forum then they will have paid for any subscription ... and after their subscription runs out they may "choose" not to renew it.. because they no longer feel they need it. that is just another perception of the reality as I see it.. the "need " to keep this Forum operating .. right now Admin. is really going month to month... wouldn't you feel happier if we didn't have to stress through this .. needless to say the pressure it put's on admin.. look at what happen when the Forum was down for a day or two.. how would you feel if it were down for a month or longer ??? Lanikai

Yes.. I am told that Port Cities have the stricktest enforcement ie; SFO, San diego,.. etc Lax seems to be the safest on the West Coast.. good thing parcels don't come straight to Hawaii ... 3 am told will be ok anything more is a risk, after 2 or more my orders are split into 2 EMS packages

this is Tom C. .. he is 3rd generation Portuguese .. his grandfather came to Hawaii in the early 1900's .. Tom enjoy's retirement and meerschaum pipes with Latakia pipe tobacco well this is the only picture of a Portuguese friend I have at the moment ... he is "ours" meaning Hawaii's own.. this is what I was supposed to post right????

TWP .. The Watch Boys ... best gator straps for the price .IWC.. Panerai

this is my point exactly about "subscriptions" and not about being "charged"... this would be a great addition to the subscribers area.. rather than VIP ... we all love this hobby and to share our knowledge and to KEEP the Forum available to everyone

fAAWWW SHOOT... TJ ... God's will be done .. I have to confess when I first saw the pic.. I thought... "Shoot, I just sent out the straps .. all 4 of them"... anyway you should be recieving it next week sometime.. funny how it takes the same time to UK as to the Mainland LIVE STRONG AND WEAR IT WELL

AFTER WINNING ONE FOR 49 USD .. FOUND OUT THEY DO NOT SHIP TO HAWAII... for that price it's worth a shot...

scoob .. I actually returned the OEM gator strap I got from TIME WERKS .. Panerai has the strangest size in straps .. it was something like 110/95.. so the buckle rode on the side of the wrist ... TWB dark brown comes closest to the Antique colour of the genuine.. I really want to order fron Arron..HK Tan .. but don't know what the gamble is with customs .. he won't guarantee deliver and say's he never had a problem .. his antique alligator is awesome and for 139 usd a very good buy ..IMO LIVE STRONG AND WEAR IT WELL

I Honestly don't feel the word "charge" is what I am trying to suggest ... although bottom line is just that.. but a subscription .... a very nominal subsribing cost should not be construed as taking money from people but just to cover the "cost' of the site .. and in that respect the cost to all members would drop.. and if it "drives" people away .. maybe these people are not sincere about helping this forum to survive ... yes i will give again and probably again if need be .. but would it be "cold" to pay a subscription rate ??either you want to stay and participate or you just want to depend on all of us.. we all love this Forum and would do whatever it takes, but there will come a day when that is not feesible anymore .. and being a site in the "gray " area of dealing in legal goods or not.. well I just hope some solution can be found .. it must be very stressful to Admin and the rest of the team Respectfully,, Lanikai

M., .... I know your intentions are honourable but you need to know the in and outs of what it takes to get the watches out of the country,..it is not just putting it in a box and "mailing it" there is a lot more taxes involved in this part of the business than i will talk about on the forum ... admin .. would be exposing themselves to a lot more than you care to think .. think about the business your talking about .. but with members who are open minded and care I think the Forum will be OK.. we need to stay positive .. and most of all work together and not butt heads.... anyway .... more shall be revealed I guess..

thanks for the info omd .. were they all watches ???

LOOOkkkinnggg GGOOOOODDD, that's the only strap that looks really great on my 089 ... i used a fabric pen to colour the stiching dark brown .. I like it better like that .. for me it brings out the full look of the gator and looks more OEM.. LIVE STRONG AND WEAR IT WELL Lanikai sorry for the blurrr

Your 100 % correct sssurfer .. my english vocabulary is not as good .. but the only word I can think of is serated edges... but the movement looks the same 28k as the ceramic / ss i have ... I am not a photo wiz so up close shots I do not know how to do... other than the serated bezel edge it looks pretty good, as far as passing for ceramic though .. but without seeing it in person you know how pics can hide the true look of these Looks like the same dial ... everything except the bezel ...

Yeah.. u no .. neva like mention dat one.. only fo vana

NOOO I DISAGREE WITH EVERYONE.. I LOVE THEM ALLL... ALL OF THEM.. EVERYONE OF THEM