Edge

Let us be quite clear. The 2 best player that England have are Terry and Lampard. Gerrard is also quality but not in the same class as Lampard. Who thinks this..........The best managers and players in the world as they were voted as the 2 best english players in the world the last 2 years running, and Ronaldinho (who isn't bad you know) reckons that Lampard is the best player in the world and would love to play in the same team as him. Gerrard is quality NO-ONE is denying that but who in their right mind would EVER drop Lampard for Gerrard......NONE of the top coaches...and no-one in their right mind. England have the same problems they always have. Owen is a good player but vastly overrated and Ronney is yet another overrated little [censored], who has had the whole world handed to him on a plate, and will still manage to [censored] it up. The decision when Rooney is fit to play should not be between Rooney and Crouch, it should be between Rooney and Owen. Why would you possibly play 2 5"?' forwards when you have the single best crosser of the ball in the world. Crouch has to play as he adds a dimension that England both need and have been lacking. As for Walcott......what a fujin Joke that is.

I believe they are using it as an EXCUSE for their lackluster and generally uninspiring performance, that leaves NO-ONE really dreading playing them. They will indeed perform better and will no doubt make QF anf possibly even SF but I really just can't see them winning. Oh and if I see anymore F***ING '66 TV shows I am gonna puke. They even got Ricky Tomlinson looking for the bloody shirts. GET OVER IT it was 40 years ago. Don't see brasil constantly shoving ALL of their wins in people's faces they let their performances do their talking and I really wish England would do the same. It is the same old story the Media ruin it for everyone. No-one really has a problem with the team, they are pretty good, it's just the bloody media that pisses everyone off. Oh and the asshat fans who cover their houses in flags and rubbish like that, as well as the propensity for violence after having drunken themselves into a stuper. Less us forget the incompetant manager, that will not be missed by the fans, although the new manager currently has a big input into what's going on so maybe things wont really change that much??

They didn't have to play in 35 degree heat against Paraguay so that shouldn't be an issue. It was 28. My problem is that football players are pussy's it takes a month for a world cup playing 1 game evry 4-6 days, and they complain about it being too tough on them. I am playing in a european championships this summer in Gibraltar in approx the same heat if not hotter, nd we will be playing 5 internationals in 7 days, THATS TOUGH!!!, none of his nancy football rubbish. However being a ex Hearts youth, before they asked me to decide between football and education, I do love footall. England have the team to win but WON'T, don't ask why, they just won't. SIMPLE. For me Brazil are obviously the team to beat but Argentina and Holland look good, Ivory Coast also look like they could cause an upset or so. There are the perennial powerhouses of Italy and France and Spain. However at 33-1 what a cracking outside bet Czech Republic are as Nedved is AWESOME!!!

The only spare case that I have here is a cheap SD and I can't get it to fit. Currently don't have a crystal press either lol. Chris

Right lads, I need some advice as to the best device for replacing the retaining ring on my MBW 1680. I was using a torch which was PERFECT, or at least I thought so, right up until I managed to break it, as is was a cheap torch with plastic and rubber. Any ideas, what do you guys use??? Randy don't be smart and post pics of your omega, I don't have one lol and it seems a bit steep to buy a watch just to replace retaining rings HAHAHA!!! So c'mon what you use???

Excellent photo tutorial. It's missing the bit where you have to put it the holes for sizing but very very good indeed. What did you use to put the sizing holes in and at what distances??

Nope they are for the genuine 1570/75 movements or AS movements as they rotate the other way lol. Chris

It is my experience that the ETA movements Barely ever have any reliability issues upon arrival. I personally have 5 ETA movements which have never ever been serviced and ALL run to within +3 seconds a week. I have not had any issues with them at all, and do not know of many if any members who have HAD TO have their ETA serviced, some people do but to be honet in my experience there has been no call for it apart from prevention.

Thanks for the kind words guys all input and comments are more than welcom for this EPIC!! hahahahah!!!! Hope you enjoyed it. Chris

What a FUD!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

Edge’s Guide To Replica Forums Part II Who has the best……..??? This instalment in my guide to replica forums workbook is an attempt to alleviate the questions of “Who has the best………??” Such questions tend to anger the general populous and end up in members getting flamed. The very simplistic approach that many members take is what I like to call the “Seek and Ye Shall Find” Response: Usually consisting of comments of the order, “Jesus Noobie, use the Search function!!” or just “Search”, usually something of that kind. This is neither an answer to the question nor a flame, it is a directional repose to much maligned question. There is also the; “AAAAAHHHHHH, Jesus We HATE NOOBIES!! Response: Which I feel is pretty self explanatory, people will FLAME and flame hard if they find you asking a “who has the best??” question. Now for my approach, well you are reading it lol. I am writing this to try and educate the new members as to what is likely going to happen should you happen to ask this question. Please do not ask a who has the best question as they are not usually dealt with amicably. Now for the crux of this post. If you want to try and decide who has the best then you will have to research any updates to the information given in this post, as I will not be updating it regularly. Submariner – The modern Rolex Submariner Replicas have become VERY accurate. So much so that from the distance that someone’s wrist is away from you it is almost impossible to tell. There are different variations on the Submariner; With Date: 16610 – Base Stainless Steel Submariner 16610LV – Commonly known as the LV, 50th Anniversary Green Bezel Black Dial Variation of the Standard Stainless Steel Submariner, comes with a maxi dial, meaning that it has bigger indices. 16613 – Two Tone Yellow Gold/Stainless Steel Submariner 16618 - Solid Gold Submariner 18k Yellow Gold 1680 – Vintage Submariner, Standard Stainless Steel, but has Red Submariner Text instead of white (Red Line), many were later serviced by Rolex to have the Red Text replaced with white, so there are both red and white variations available. 16800 – Is a transitional submariner between the 1680 and it’s newer descendants. Please note that Genuine parts for the 1680, 16800 and 16610 are Generally NOT interchangeable, as they have different crystal variations. No Date: 5508, 5512, 5513, 5514, 5517, 6200, 6204, 6205, 6536, 6538, 6538A, 14060, 14060M Of note: 5512/5513 – First “superlative chronometer” Submariner’s Can come with standard submariner dial or with so called “Explorer dial” with 3,6 and 9 indices. Supremely rare and very sought after. 6536/6538 – The Much Adored so called “Bond Subs” these are the watches that were made famous by James Bond in the early Bond Films. Connery (Sir Sean to most of you) was a big fan of these watches and wore them in his Bond films. They lack Crown Guards and are also Very Rare and highly sought after. In general the Rolex submariner is the most sought after replica watch, as most of you who come here are originally looking for a Sub……Aren’t You?? It is from then that taste in other watches develops or is UNLEASHED lol, with a massive Panerai and Omega craze the buying never stops. The main differences between the Vintage and the Modern Submariners are the crystal type and also the pearl. The modern submariners that most of you know and worship have Sapphire Crystal and metal surround pearls. The pearl for those of you who don’t know is the bit of lume (white bit) at the 12 O’clock index on your bezel. In the vintage models this pearl is surrounded by acrylic and NOT metal as in the 1680, and the crystal is raised and called a “Tropic”, which protrudes greatly from the watch to give in my humble opinion a FANTASTIC look to the watch. Now to the dealers…….. Most of our dealers carry MANY variations on the submariner, including Date and No Date, Modern and Vintage. The main thing that you have to decide on is what variation that you want, Two Tone, Stainless Steel, Full Gold…..Blue, Black, Green…. The options are vast but you will decide on one. Then it is time to decide upon Who has the best?? There are in MY OPINION 3 different versions of this watch….. Asian, Swiss (ETA), and MBW. Asian – Most of the dealers will carry some subs in Asian movement variations, they usually run at about $100-130 and are aesthetically very accurate. The Crown Guards and Insert are generally not bad and the dial is acceptable. They generally have all of the same characteristics of the more expensive ETA models but with the cheaper movement. Asian movements are as far as I am concerned a gamble, completely hit or miss. Some people swear by them, some people swear at them. If you do choose to go with the Asian version you will have a very nice looking sub with a movement that usually works but is a touch unreliable, best to get it serviced quickly, as after a service it would appear that most of the issues are solved and they will run for a substantial amount of time. Swiss (ETA) – So Called Swiss movement which is in truth no more Swiss than fly in the air, however in replica terms an ETA is a Swiss movement. These are EXTREMELY reliable movements which are routinely used in Genuine watches, so reliability is much much higher. The cosmetics of the watch are ostensibly unchaned. Price is usually $200-220 There are now Josh’s perfect Sub and PT’s Ultimate sub, both of which claim to be as close to gen as possible, they have extremely nice crown guards and bezel inserts, and the general look of the watch is very close to the genuine. There have been some alignment issues with the Cyclops on the PT version, but that is easily fixed. These editions usually run for more as they are closer and generally thought to be very good quality almost that of MBW’s, they usually run at approx $280 MBW (Maria’s Best Watch)/WM (Watchmaster) – Now Maria was a dealer here who provided very High quality Rolex reps. This mantle has now been taken on by Luckyyy and George. MBW watches are widely regarded as the most accurate replicas available along with WM replicas these are the most sought after variations on the submariner. Watchmaster makes very similar watches to MBW and both are considered as good as it gets. They are cased 1:1 so the big benefit is that they accept Genuine Rolex Parts, and modifications are a common occurance. The bezel insert will readily accept a genuine pearl and they will take Genuine Inserts, and even crystals and suchlike. Be prepared to drop $360 on MBW watches and regularly prices for these are in Euros at approx €300. Who has the best??? This all depends on what you are looking for. The Asian versions are very good if you are looking for a watch that is pretty close in appearance and wont cost you too much money, they are generally pretty accurate and have had good review’s about value for money. They have reliability issues and are NOT as close as some of the other versions to genuine, but very good for the money, and good for those on a budget or wanting more watches. The Swiss Eta Versions are more reliable and generally slightly better made, IMHO. They have none of the reliability issues that the Asian versions have and are again pretty close to the genuine. They too have there problems including crown guards, bezel insert, pearl and dial, all of which will allow for it to be spotted on CLOSE inspection. Also the datemag is often not 2.5x on the Swis and Asian standard sub reps. PT/Josh versions are more accurate with better insert and far improved crown guards. They are more accurate but on occasion need the Cyclops aligned. The general appearance apart from these alterations is the same and they are basically slightly modded ETA versions. ETA versions are IMHO perfect for those who want an accurate watch that will keep on ticking for years, without ever really worrying about it’s small inaccuracies and without really wanting to mod it. MBW/WM versions are considered the crème of the crop especially as far as Vintage models go, they readily accept genuine parts and are more accurately cased. They too have pearl problems and also need croen guard work, and are of course more expensive. Perfect for the modder who wants to create his/her own Frankenwatch to suite his/her own tastes. These are the most expensive versions but are also the easiest to modify, some of them having as many genuine parts as replica. So….. Only you can decide who has the best version FOR YOU!!! There is not a set standard as some of you will be looking for the most accurate some of you will be looking for accuracy but with a budget, all sorts of things must be taken into consideration, and for that reason we do not have a standard BEST. What is important to you may not be important to someone else, and PLEASE PLEASE EVERYONE REMEMBER…….. THEY ARE STILL REPS…… No matter how good they look, someone will always be able to tell the difference, if they know what they are doing , and remember if anyone ever sees inside your watch it’ll be a dead giveaway so NEVER EVER TRY AND PASS A REP AS GEN. Never try and put it on a genuine watch website such as Timezone or suchlike as it’ll be outed within MINUTES, no matter how good you think it is it’s STILL A REP, and NEVER AND I MEAN NEVER try and sel your rep as a Gen. This is completely uncalled for and I will personally be over the moon should you get jail time. I hope this helps and please from now on don’t bother asking who has the best, whether it be subs, planet oceans or whatever you have to do the research on the different models and then MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND, what’s important to you?? Then decide on a watch, NOONE else knows what you want so we don’t have standard BEST editions, each to their own. A rep is a rep, and ALWAYS remember that. Who has the best sub??? Rolex so buy a Genuine if it bothers you that much!! I hope you have found this informational and also that it will make you realise that you CANNOT get an individual answer tyo a who has the best question it will always be personal preference. Enjoy Edge!

At least it's a bloody good effort lol. Chris

Edge’s Guide to Replica Forum’s Part I An Introduction to RWG and Other Replica Forums and A Dealer Member Trade Outline. This is a guide to using this and many of the other forums. My aim in writing this is to better educate members as to the effectiveness of this forum is saving $$$ for hundreds and hundreds of members. Most people here will have at one time seen or fallen victim of Idealwatches or suchlike so do not fear reprisal for mentioning the fact that you almost did/did business with them, these sites are very well designed and would fool many people. The members here and on the other forums, have had the benefit of being educated by other people as to how much to pay and what to look for. I am not by any manner or means an expert in this field, I have a lot to learn, and I learn new information every time I log on. The key is to read as much as you can before posting questions, if someone has posted it before in an appropriately named thread it should be easy enough to find, and there is masses of information contained within these here walls. First things first: I strongly advise ANY of you to read this, it is a book called The Replica Watch Report and it is regularly updated and is an excellent informational tool. Replica Watch Report Let us not get too far ahead of ourselves and say that the forums that have been set up for us are the ONLY places that you will ever need to go to find out about replica watches. There are many trusted dealers, whom have been tried and tested by many people before you. All members are actively encouraged to post a review after a transaction, whether it be positive or negative. If a dealer is not reffered to positively within these forums and has not been verified or has not become a dealer at the forums, please do not bother trying to buy from them. For the sake of the $50 you might save it’s worth the peace of mind that our dealers have been here and done that, and their service is absolutely excellent. I am going to attempt to stay away from the personal overtones that are sometimes attributed to these kind of threads/posts. I do not intend to personally vouch for ANY dealers and I am ultimately not responsible for any experiences you have. I am merely going to outline the basics of the forum to try and simplify things for new members and existing members alike. Dealers: I will not bother mentioning them each by name as they vary from forum to forum and can each be found in the respective Dealer Section. RWG Dealer Section: Watch Dealers – http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=19 Accessory Dealers – http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=68 The dealers in these sections have been tried by MANY members before you and have been evaluated based upon performance by members and their experiences posted in the dealer review section. Dealer Review Section – http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=11 Please take some time to read this section to make yourself aware of any pros and cons of working with ANY dealer. Also please note that Dealers are there to help you out, they happily answer to PM’s and Email’s. Please be sure to check whether the dealer in question accepts the form of communication that you choose, some wont do PM’s and some prefer them. Please take time to familiarise yourself with a dealer’s guidelines as to what happens should a package be damaged/lost. ALWAYS try and sort any problems with a dealer in private until satisfactory completion, in many cases resolution is promptly found, however there are occasions where a resolution cannot be found and advice must be saught from the members and it as at this time and this time ONLY that you announce any problems to the board for advice. Then after a satisfactory resolution is found, or an agreement is reached, please feel free to write a FULL and Comprehensive review of your dealings, whether that be positive or negative, censorship of reviews only leads to ill informed members. Member Trade: There is a member trade section of the board, which is relatively self explanatory. Member’s Trade Section – http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=18 Where you can trade Watches, Straps and Bracelets, Tolls and Parts and Other Item’s. Please take time to get references from the member you intend to deal with. Has he/she traded anything before? How did it go? And suchlike. This is a very important part of the forums, and we pride ourselves on trying to help each other out, but please be careful, remember the old adage “If it looks too good to be true, it is!!” We have many trusted members and do many trades on a daily basis, so it should be relatively easy to find a good deal with a member who will come through for you. Please guys remember that a member is not responsible for variables outwith their control. If an item is damaged in transit or, God forbid, lost, then the member will no doubt try to help in any way that they can but remember these people aren’t high street vendors, they are themselves small time collectors like you, and cannot afford to refund you in full if they have done the best they can to make sure there are no problems. REMEMBER, there is an inherent risk involved in all transactions conducted with members/dealers as this is not a mainstream hobby. Many good deals are to be had from buying from members, and usually some form of trade will be acceptable where you each send some goods and cash as appropriate. These trades are usually mutually beneficial. Anyway enough about buying and selling……. Watch Repair and Upgrade: On the forums we have a few resident watch repair and upgrade guys, they are superb at what they do. Each has their own specific genre and niche. They can be found by reading in the Knowledge Base Section, and also a couple have their own areas. Knowledge Base – http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=55 Also contained within the Knowledge Base section are MANY FANTASTIC knowledgeable posts from a lot of different members, all of which are worth a good read. Watch Repair and Upgrade Section – http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=7 Where The Zigmeister Zone and RBJ’s Corner can be found, as well as many Watch Repair and Upgrade Posts from our membership. Feel free to read, read and read some more in thee sections, should you have any questions that have not to the best of your knowledge been covered then go ahead and ask, both The Zigmeister and RBJ have Q&A sections in their area’s, and you can also post a new thread to ask the opinion of the members, many of whom readily opine lol. Other Issues: Let’s get the obvious one out of the way first….. Who has the Best…………? Answer: Guys this is not EVER a good question, simple as that. There are too many variables in which there is too much ambiguity, to give a definitive answer to this much maligned question. Each version of each watch is usually very similar, in many cases the watches come from the same supplier. However different dealer’s do on occasion get different versions of the same watches, and NOONE can say which is BEST. There are different flaws in each and the best is a personal point of view. Something that you find unbarable as a fault might mean NOTHING to another member, so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Don’t ask who has the best anything. It is usually responded to with, frivolity and sarcasm, so just read as much as you possibly can about each version and draw your own conclusions. Some members are extremely helpful and will go out of their way to help out some others aren’t as helpful, you will quickly learn who’s who and you will no doubt make a plethora of friends. There are many other sections…. RWG News, Photo Gallery, General Discussion and Off Topic to name but a few, these are all relatively self explanatory and I don’t wanna ruin all your searching fun. Please take your time to read as much as you can, and feel free to add any knowledge that you bring with you to our vaults of information. Some Further Reading: Please do not be disappointed if one of your threads is not listed here, if you feel that anything should be added then please let me know. There is so much info that I couldn’t possibly link all of it. The key is to do related searches and just read read read. Ubiquitous: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=3302&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=4472&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=1216&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=5743&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=1066&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=107&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=109&hl= By-Tor: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=3392&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=426&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=4509&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=927&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=429&hl= Pugwash’s Photo Tutorials: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=825&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=826&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=3994&hl= Pugwash + Edge: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=884&hl= Edge: http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=4275&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=4855&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=3715&hl= http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?showtopic=420&hl= There are many other VERY VERY valueable topics to read from MANY other extremely knowledgeable members, Please take the time to read as many posts in the knowledge base and the watch repair and upgrade sections as you can. If I have left anyone out please feel free to post a link to the topic and I will add it to this. I hope that this guide has been helpful to new members and older members alike as a general outline of the forum set-up and Dealer/Member Trade. Please look forward to Part II in the series in which I will delve slightly further into our Forums. Thanks Edge!

Coward is possibly the wrong choice of word. I wasn't decrying people for not wanting to do military service, I fully understand that many people would never consider the armed forces as a career and that's fine. My issue was that he has dropped and run from the members before, he has now shown that he has tried to run from military service, what's to stop it happening again??? My real issue with the miltary service thing, was as TTK said, the fact that it was used as an excuse for abandoning the members and effectively STEALING, all the money, well DEFRAUDING them least.

No, merely able to interpret a failed attempt at an insult lol.

.......a blue cross......... Damn I feel bad for those finish guys with no testicles!! It's white you [censored] lol

Let us not dwell on the past, RWG1 is and forever will be "dead to me". B;ade can try and come up with any horseshit excuse that he feels that some of the smallminded amoeba will accept. For me it's old news, what has RWG1 got that RWGII, TRC, RWI and WT don't have.......for me NOTHING, and there are a lot of POSSIBLE cons, that it carries with it that NONE of the other boards have. Why take the risk?? A home is what you make of it, and for me I want a secure, steadfast and reliable place to call home. I PERSONALLY choose to spend my time here and on RWI. This is not because they are BETTER than ANY other board, it is merely that I Have people on both boards I call friends and that I have come to enjoy the feel of both boards. When RWG1 went down, that was the end for me. When RWGII came up, only a SHORT WHILE ago, ALL of the members were exstatic, praising all the efforts of the Mods/Admin...... What kind of 2 faced, weak, POS, renigs on his comments and FLEES back to RWG1, the SAME RWG1 that was a barran wasteland for so long, run by someone who has impunable morals AT BEST. There need not be any argument in this matter IMHO, as there is only one choice. I thanked the Mods/Admin for their efforts and I meant every word, without them we may still have been waiting on mighty Blade to come and RESCUE the old board. I have pledged this and RWI my home and WILL NOT be jumping ship back to a place run by characters of reptilian resemblance. Let us not dwell on the pros and cons of the 2 RWG's it's not a competition, one is GUARANTEED to be here, and be a safehaven for horologists of our ilk, the other is a 50:50 guess at whether it'll even be up, which is run by a COWARD, who deserted his OWN COUNTRY, just think how quick he'll be to drop the members again if he dismissed his home nation, and who seems to be solely motivated by financiary gain. I hope that members will take time to ACTUALLY THINK about what they are doing, but c'est la vie. " Ours is not to reason "Why?" " "Life is long, but in the end, the journey is the destination" You choose the path along which your journey will follow, and I will choose mine, in the end our journey's will both finish, and it is only then that we will come to ponder, whether we made the right choices. Choices are the the only undeterminable force in our journey, you will make yours, and I mine, we shall meet again whence we can compare path's, but until that day comes........ .......Have a pleasant journey and I wish ALL of you all the best, I shall never forget any of you who have touched my life, and those who will share some more of my journey with me, let us travel on.......

Went to Alton Towers last week, and judging by the number of such cars I seen, there is an epidemic of penile reticulation.

Let us not forget the GREED of the second hand buyer. The fact that something is NOT new gives the second hand buyer a good EXCUSE to low ball. People always see that there is a significant reduction in price even if an item has NEVER been used. Take the car business, say I buy a brand new car, as soon as it goes off the lot it is second hand and has lost a SIGNIFICANT portion of it's value, a $10000 becomes more like a $75000 in the space of SECONDS. If I wanted to sell it on 5 minutes after buying it having done less than a 100 yards it in it would depreciate by approx 1/5 to 1/4 of it's worth. Rediculous IMHO. But there will always be people who pay the premium to have something FIRST and new, and then there are always the people who want a bargain and will haggle for $0.01 and drive the price as low as possible that is the nature of our economy and the nature of the business place. My thoughts...

WADE WADE WADE WADE WADE WADE!!!!! shaq... Nuff said!!

I vote for JTB and that is coming from a published poet. Pure class in a glass hahahahaha!!! Slanderous but class, anyway mate gotta jet comin through to the dark side the night fur trainin' bludy Bellahouston, PISH!!!

Nice collection my friend have fun pulling these babies apart lol. Chris

Filefront aren't bad, meant for games realted stuff but I have all sorts on there, including some software. HAHAHAHA!!

Very informative and technical post. Much appreciated. Chris

@Admin I feel for you mate I really hope that everything works out and I along with the other comments posted am sure that you will have no problems getting another gig. As for the passport situation that you mentioned, there is an easy way to sort that, make the fiance a wife lol, then she HAS to be granted both a work permit and eventually a passport. Just my $.02