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... damn, as I suspected another rep builder was watching that one... I'm sure you mean the 5513 dial with the nice creamy markers and spider effect. Did you win the bidding? Ended up going for higher than the cap I set for myself, but was still disappointed I wasn't the one to snag it!

I'll keep you posted. Have my eye on a gen dial but not sure what to do about hands yet… maybe gen Tudor hands? ps- to the OP, love that NATO, is it Maratac?

OK, now I'm seriously considering changing my 1680 into a 5513... stupid question but would it be as simple as dial / crystal swap? Already using an MBW 5513 case.

Really? Which dealer? Same movement but different case altogether, or more of a v2 of this with improved details? Something else unrelated?

Yep, you absolutely have a dressed up ETA clone... NOT the movement being discussed in this thread. That's a relief (and not a knock on yours)! Still hope that these subs will take gen dial / hands.

Hmmm... could you take a picture of the movement? Seems odd that it would take an ETA dial after all the crowing about being able to take gen hands / dial etc. Maybe you got the wrong one?

Love the creamy patina of the indices / pearl, & gorgeous photography!

I'd sell the gen dial to fund the other work... don't think you'll get nearly as much bang for the buck as gen insert / crystal / crown.

Yep, grey market. Omega actually sued Costco over this (and won... surprising to see them in this pic). I agree with one of the above posters about how this could be misleading for the buyer. Costco is known for steep discounts, but the watches I've seen at my local store are not any cheaper than can readily be found elsewhere.

Thanks for the reply! I'm still learning about these vintage Subs and don't know the ins & outs yet. About the insert, is this one obviously "off" to you? It was the only thing to me that caught my eye as not looking quite gen. Too domed? Incorrect color? Not sure what it is... Bracelet has incorrect endlinks but 580s were included. I might swap them, but maybe not. The current pair fit well. Here's one more shot.

Hey guys, any advice on next steps with my inbound 1680? Old MBW 5513 case, listed w/spec: Case has drilled lugholes and adjusted CGs. Dial and hands are relumed (and glows) All work on the case and dial/hands was made by Ziegmeister. Gen parts: Tube, crown, crystal and bars. ... and the pics

Can I join in the fun? Here's mine (in front)...

Very nice! Mine's in the front below, but your pics are making me consider swapping on a rivet to change things up

foreground is mine... gotta say GMT on Jubilee is a fantastic combo!

if it's being done by Rolex, make sure you specify they ONLY service the movement... would utterly ruin the rich history of this watch to swap in new parts & let it be brushed / polished.

Hey guys, I'll chime in as I was the previous owner... I bought this watch here on RWG, this is the original sales thread (just managed to dig it up today). It was sold as needing service but no mention of bezel issues, and several members including those that own BK noob GMTs seemed to think it was legit. I'm pretty sure I had the seller ship directly to PBdad, who I've worked with before and who was going to handle the service as well as swap the original black insert to Pepsi for me. I don't try ANY mods myself, leave that stuff to the pros. PB sent the watch off for service, and he himself swapped the insert (not sure in which order though). At the time he made no mention of the glue etc., but maybe he wouldn't have noticed? I honestly know very little about the bezel construction. Sorry, I know that doesn't help much, but it's all the info I've got... and as mentioned in the OP, I've been in contact with the buyer, and PB, trying to sort this out.

wow, if this is a build / franken I'd also love to hear the details...

strike 1 strike 2 ... I'm no expert but I'll try and actually answer your question. Most new Panerai from the so-called "H Factory" like the 111 and 005 are considered super reps. The latest Cartier Santos is very well regarded, as is the Breitling SuperOcean Abyss.

20 marker on the bezel looks terrible, but maybe fixable by removing excess paint? 4 o'clock hour marker also seems to indicate gray surounds, not black.

There's a blog post explaining it a little further... http://puretimewatch.com/blog/166/

[added emphasis above is mine] I understand you were upset when this statement was made, but hopefully you've since reflected on it and seen the dangers of jumping to such conclusions. We do too much of that here in the States, where (aside from 9/11) our "terrorists" are home-grown as well. Extremism, not Islam, is the real enemy... in whichever form it takes.

the rehaut on the sub looks wrong... wokky?

I can see 'em now that I refreshed... and speaking of the photos, could you take some comparison shots of the 2 Daytonas?

Definitely had sellers remorse after letting my BK / WM9 YM upgraded with gen parts go...

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