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Thanks for chiming dude, Interesting thoughts again. Seconds are not really that important, but the secs hand is the only one that moves visibly. To me, that makes it come to life and become friendly or something. Agree on the crown lume idea dude, will explore that! (vintage) Tritium it is (however this will be a superluminova mix with some orange) thanks for your kind help mg

Okay TeeJay how about this logic: IF the 24 hrs function on ExplorerII/Space-DwellerII is merely used to distinguish day from night, not display a second time-zone - - then it would not be necessary to split the dial into 24 separate markers (thus cluttering the dial). Indeed, day/night only is split into two groups; Day and Night. According to this logic, it would be sufficient to leave the 24-hrs hand without any indexes to point to: If its pointing to the right (01-12) it would be a.m. on earth (sic), if its pointing to the right (13-24) its p.m. In other words, the dial simply has to have some kind of am/pm-distinguishing feature which separates the right part of the dial from the left. If the 12 hour hand points to "2" and the 24 hour hand points to the left, its "14". Here are all the sketches for comparison. Numbers 1 and 2 are based on the 1655 dial but without 24hrs markers that use the lume triangle at 12 and 6 to separate dial into two halves (am right, pm left). 1 has explorer triangle, 2 has smaller sub triangle. Number 3 is Datejust style, number 4 is the same, only with 24hrs markers among secs. Number 5 and 6 are even more self-explanatory! Nitty-gritty details to be sorted later. Any one of these good enough? mg

Trying to enhance visibility of "hours" on dial. Here are two new rough versions. This one uses mins/secs numbers (I'd use the flat 3 font from dw on dial if went for this design) . problem with this one - no room for lume!! This one would have lumed cubic 5-minute/hour indexes: ...But still no idea how to include 24hrs indexes without cluttering the dial. Maybe keep them on bezel only? The baddest thing to do would be a 24hrs dial only, but as a beater? Dont think so. Any ideas? mg

TeeJay - is this what you mean? Surely it cant be. Or? mg BTW heres a rough pic of the case/new crystal/8mm DSN Brevet

Heres another version. The idea on this one is to not use hrs indexes, relying on the bezel indexes and fatter minute indexes where the hrs indexes would be. The secs hand WILL be that big. However I´d be interested to hear any reservations against it, which I suppose there might be. What about the colour? Could be either tritium or fluorescent orange I thought. Vintage Tritium? Working on TeeJays idea now... mg

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Damn, gotta love this forum. For vanity reasons, I think I might consider getting rid of the triangle at 12 (found on Explorer, Sub, SD, GMT) and instead have a bigger crown logo (as per Milgauss, Daytona etc). Just thought I

Nice thoughts there guys. It sure is refreshing to be forced away from of one's usual pattern of thought. A 24-hour dial! Interesting. The 1665 having 24 hrs markings on the bezel - in which case one would assume hour indexes taken care of - perhaps I only need mins/secs/subsecs (as per chronograph) on the dial? Hopefully there will be even more input - after that I hope we can have a discussion as I will start sketching. As I say - please keep ideas coming, MG

Feeling creative? I hope so. A project I´ve been working on for a while will soon hit DOMI for finishing and assembly. I guess it's a "what if" project ... "what if Rolex made a Space-Dweller II based on the 1655". Its my humble shot at outcooling the genuine vintage sports Rolexes and getting the exact watch that I want as a beater. These decisions are made: - 1655 case w/o cg, bead-blasted for a grey finish - 8mm crown - 24 hour hand stays (but it doesn´t have to be the 1655 hand) - Inverted DW (silver writing on black) EDIT: GAVE UP - Biggest ever custom secs hand will stretch across the entire dial diameter: EDIT: MORE MODERATE HOWEVER SUPER-WOW HAND SELECTED But what about the dial (will be custom made). Any ideas on something simple, believable and unique? You are hereby invited to send inspiration, ideas or provocations. In the form of words, links to existing dials or pics - anything. Thanks! MG

Agree to alla-this, and also agree that McQueen's role in building this watch as a cult object is likely exaggerated. LOL! The oilskin-enthusiasts have the same argument about whether McQueen's wore Belstaff or Barbour. You know you´re a Legend when people argue about what you wore and when! However! IMO, the 1655 is an interesting and important watch with a magnificent sports-design & beautiful colour-scheme that surely deserves a top position within the historic Rolex sports family. 2 pesetas MG

Love that Pan Am (and the others) But the Pan Am, it certainly is in a league of its own. mg

Hi guys, excellent thread, this @FxrAndy, please be invited to share pics of faulty waterslide dials if you have them - others peoples experimentation is super interesting regardless of the end result! @JoeyB: Great project!!!!!! Congratulations and thanks for sharing! MG

My favourite Pam! MG

I saw him with a big fat Breitling (don

x2 thanks for sharing this! Great work, mg

Fantastic project. Congratulations! MG

Damn, this is simply amazing! IMO a great choice of project! Looks very nice, MG

Thanks a bundle ubi!!!!! MG

Hi all, Will be attempting a waterslide dw mod on a 2836-2, but couldn

Thanks Rosnik. The ultimate goal isn´t a 1655, but a quite altered fantasy watch which is based on the 1655. You´re right though, I should have started with a ETA 1655 version, but the cgs been shaved, holes drilled, case blasted and custom dial made...so I feel I should proceed with the a21j case I have sent you a pm. Thomas

Thanks Rosnik, will send a pm, all the best, MG

FXR, thanks for the reply! The price given was just to make the dial fit the new movement, not fit the crown and hands. Still, perhaps the quote for the entire job wouldn

Hi all, I asked a watchsmith to install a 2836-2 in a asian 21j case (trusty cheap 1655), and she said the dial feet must be altered + stem size was different but could be done if she sent it away to a "proper smith". It would cost about 120 USD to do this. Well I like to talk with the people actually involved in the job, and having bought Omega hands for it (which need adjustment to fit) and a DSN Brevet crown (Ok its a fantasy project) which is Molnija or 6497 (stem) I don

thanks tmg

Hi all, I