freddy333

To paraphrase Henry Higgins - I've grown accustomed to her face My Bond Sub, that is

Ditto all of the above.

As long as you are freezing subdial hands, why not just find a standard 3-hand movement (with separate running seconds at 6 that matches the location of the Daytona running seconds) & install (cement) the 2 additional subdial hands in the appropriate locations on the dial? Seems like that would achieve the same effect with alot less work.

Perish the thought.

Nanuq is correct. To make the bezel turn easier (it is designed NOT to easily turn), pry the bezel off & flatten the curve of the flat spring washer that sits between the bezel & the case. The flatter the spring washer is, the less tension it places on the underside of the bezel & the freer (easier) it turns. Ideally, the bezel should require a firm press (down) in order to move it.

Great work, except for 1 thing - the terms vintage & super luminova are at cross-purposes with each other. Super luminova is a modern luminous material & was neither available nor used when the 1665 was produced. But it looks good in the daylight.

Nanuq - I think those spider cracks were in the lens prior to the UV exposure. 1 of the reasons it is not a good idea to take vintage watches (with vintage crystals) in the water is because the plastic material breaks down & becomes brittle over time (with or without UV exposure). The UV exposure then tints the recesses within the cracks (along with the rest of the lens), which makes them more visible. This explanation came from an old Rolex-trained watchmaker.

Subdial pinions on axis with 3 & 9 indexes = fake 1165xx (modern) Daytona. Box, like reality tv, is fake too.

I see the price has risen to $370 (my apologies, I thought it was still $300-ish), but, still, out of the box, I would still take the MBW's inaccuracies over Puretime's.

You will need to research current locations of some of the sites listed, but You Can Build a Nearly Perfect 116520 Daytona

I do not mean to hurt anyone's feelings, but I think the additional $100 entrance fee for an MBW would be money well spent. At least, out of the box, the MBW's flaws strike me as less conspicuous. And to Nanuq's insightful comment - I agree - the round hour indexes look too big (while the rectangular indexes look too thin). The colors are a bit garish.

Interesting. But this may be a franken. I have had mixed experiences with that seller. A couple items I got from them had obviously received some enhanced patination, which they swore ignorance about. ebay, at 1 point, even closed their account due to complaints. But they told me the issues were resolved (in their favor). They are probably legit, but I would still tread carefully when buying from them. The engravings on this 7928 caseback look a bit suspicious. I could be wrong though.

I think you are right - both are off - angle & depth. Either way, that flange is inaccurate enough to have caught my eye even with marginal pics. Yuki must be sourcing cases from different factories, because his 6536 case (at least the test piece I got from them) has a nearly perfect, right-angled & low profile inner flange.

To the OP - Yes, it is quite true that the average sales person (& even some store managers) knows little or nothing about the watches he/she sells. Accordingly, it should come as no big surprise to anyone that the counter staff know little or nothing about the quality of modern reps. However, & this is the salient point, with watch dealers closing right & left due to slow sales, you can bet that stories about your gen-like rep will make their way back to Rolex. And Rolex, also feeling the economic pinch of their bottom line (much due to the proliferation of gen-like reps), is (quite understandably) not likely to be as pleased as the sales staff appeared to be.

I am assuming the request is limited to reps/frankens & not gens. In that context, I could cite any number of senior members' collections worthy of special merit, but, ultimately, I would love to see some new pics of Avitt's or Eunomians' collection favs. My favs tend to change depending on my mood & wearing habits, but, today, these are probably my favs

Pretty watch.

I doubt the seller knows what you are talking about. Most rep sellers are not watch fanatics, so 'slow beat' is meaningless to them. You might get a better answer if you ask whether the movement beats at 18kbph or 28kbph? They might be able to answer that.

Ubi is exactly right (as usual). After more than a quarter century wearing rep watches, although I am occasionally complimented, no one has ever asked to inspect the watch I am wearing. And if someone were to ask for a closer look, even a gen owner would be insane to allow a stranger (or even a friend) to remove a bracelet or open a caseback out in the real world. Note to anyone wearing a strap with a Rolex rep - the serial/model numbers between the lugs on gen Rolex watches are always engraved. Meanwhile, the numbers on most rep cases are laser etched & the difference between engraving & laser etching is immediately obvious to anyone familiar with Rolex watches.

Love the case (especially the bezel insert), but, the dial, not so much. On 2nd look, I wonder if the inner flange (rehaut) may be too deep?

A light sanding should lighten it.

Bond Sub today

The double red is not bad (I have seen better), but his Daytona & Bond Sub dials are just plain nasty.

By-Tor is absolutely correct. This is a current pic of the oldest rep I have (circa 1987) that is still in my possession Here is a bit of background info on this particular watch.

Way to go, Ubi. After the gen dial comes the gen crystal & a legend is born.

DW has them all (though this 1 has gen pushers, etc)