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Thanks for adding your link to this thread. Excellent review of the genuine. Are the middle links of the bracelet all-polished? Looks that way. There's nothing done correctly on this rep... amazing. But still... damn nice watch like I said. And just like you said too... the 38mm isn't too small at all. It's very nice option for people with smaller wrists. I have almost 8' wrist and it still looks ok... goes well with bigger wrists too. But I think I'll eventually want rep of the full sized version. @Linder & Startibartfast: Thanks guys, glad you enjoyed it.

That's a cool Moon Watch. Did Ziggy kill the 6'o'clock subdial? Let me know if you want to get rid of it.

Yep. Thanks Richard, I know that. Perhaps I just didn't point it out clearly enough in my review. I tried to say that it looks smaller, but not as small as the 38mm diameter would lead you believe. I think the diameter is 38mm.

@hottoddy: Yes, I was thinking of that too. But the size of my watch is considerably smaller than the other rep. The case is also thinner. Paul, for example, sells these both watches, and it's apparent that they come from the same factory. Why would they make this one smaller if it's not supposed to be a rep of the "reduced" version? Actually, Paul's site has pictures of this same rep, but with the numerals on the dial. http://www.wo-mart.com/product_info.php?cP...products_id=299 The watch is a hybrid, but damn nice one at that. Although the bracelet is inaccurate it looks very good. Excellent brushed/polished stripe finish.

The datemag looks excellent to me. Why not compare it to the genuine picture? To me it looks spot on.

Thanks Puggy. Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting "sponsored" by the dealers. Heck, I could review these beauties all day long... and receive a new watch every day. I'm such an addict.

I'm glad I've been able to help Jeff. You're soon broke though... you buy WAY too many watches!!!

Excellent writeup. 2 posts already? Quite an introduction!!!

No, the gen "stutters" a bit too. The bph is the same with Rolex calibres and ETA (28.800). How could be there any difference? This is another ugly myth that raises its hand every now and then. Just like the mysterious "genuine Rolexes are heavy watches". All in all: the standard ETA-powered rep sweep is exactly the same.

I always wanted the rep of Moon Watch. How can a Omega fan live without one? A fellow member was selling his "reduced" version for a ridiculous price at TRC (due to chronograph reset problem) so I had no other choice but put him out of his misery and buy this lovely watch. Thanks my friend!!! The chronograph resets to random positions on the dial but since I rarely use the chronos on my watches I just stopped it manually at '12 and live with it... for now. Other than that the watch is perfect and keeps excellent time. A fellow watchsmith who "killed" my BA subdial will probably do the same for this baby... and fix the stopwatch reset problem as well. Once again, this rep is powered with Venus/Seagull hand wind movement which Ziggy has reviewed HERE. I was going to buy the watch only for review purposes (as an addition to my Omega Guide). Some people have been asking about the "reduced" rep version and I thought I'd do a community service, just quickly review the watch and let it go after that. I thought the "reduced" version would look ridiculously small on me but I was wrong. The watch feels roughly the same size as the Sub or GMT Master, and when compared to the full sized Speedy it doesn't feel much smaller at all. This was a pleasant surprise to me, and I'm also surprised how much I like the watch! It has more rugged appearance than my "BA". Here you can see a quick comparison shot of the two: My "BA hands" Speedmaster has thicker case and bracelet, plus a raised acrylic crystal which makes it look a bit "bulkier". The difference in diameter (2-3mm) isn't too dramatic as you can see from the picture. Actually I'm happy that I got the "reduced" Speedy, since I've never seen a pictorial or review of this rep anywhere. Even among the genuine watch circles you rarely see anyone buying or reviewing this smaller version. Just like another "little brother", Tudor Mini-Sub, it's overshadowed by the bigger version... and thus it's not that desirable among the collectors. To be exact, the reduced version is not the "real" Moon Watch, because the full sized real McCoy was powered with Lemania hand wind movement... and the gen reduced Speedy comes with automatic only. And besides, Pugwash has already reviewed the full sized rep Moon Watch. You can read about his trip to the Moon HERE. Then to the unavoidable question: Is the "reduced" version very accurate? The short answer is "no". Almost everything is wrong in the rep, which makes it a hybrid watch. As you can see from the following two comparison shots the appearance of the watch and the subdial spacing is almost exact. But when we take a closer examination we'll see that the running seconds and stopwatch minute counter are reversed... and the rep lacks the numeric seconds markers from 5, 10, 20, etc. And of course the problem with all Venus/SeaGull powered reps the 6'o'clock subdial is a 24 hour hand which makes the appearance wrong. The rep also has writing "PROFESSIONAL" on the dial while the genuine has text "AUTOMATIC". Replica: Genuine: You think the flaws end here? Well, the clasp is also wrong. This rep has long push-button clasp with the writing "Speedmaster Professional" and a diver's extension clasp! The rep factory has apparently used a Seamaster clasp with this one. It's actually quite hilarious how flawed this rep is. Our most anal retentive members will probably commit a suicide after seeing this review. (Genuine clasp on the right). It also has the standard, transparent glass back (just like all other Venus/Seagull Speedys). It's inaccurate for this model (how did you guess?), but gorgeous as ever. Well, how dare I still like the watch, with all these flaws? If I like the design, looks and "feel" of the watch I just enjoy it. It's that simple. The general appearance is very accurate and watch has quality feel of a high-end replica. It's just those minutiae hardcore WIS details that instantly give it away. The watch looks absolutely gorgeous on the wrist... and it's different enough from my "BA-hands version". And if someone asks (which most likely won't happen) I just tell them it's a hybrid. I actually HOPE that I'll run into a WIS who knows the exact details of Omega Speedmaster "reduced" in this lifetime. This review kinda left me scratching my head. Because in the end of the day I'm not sure if this rep should be compared to the "reduced" version at all. Maybe we should see it as just another rep version of the Moon Watch? The only differences between this and the full sized rep is the bracelet, 2mm smaller diameter and the flat crystal. Genuine "reduced" Speedmaster retails at $1800, but preowned watches can be obtained for as low as $500. So does buying the flawed rep make any sense? No, unless you get a good deal like me. Yes, if you have smaller wrists, like the looks of this watch as it is... and find it for less than $150. But definitely go for the full sized version if you want more accurate Speedy. Meanwhile, I'm going to enjoy my sinfully inaccurate but ah so delicious and good looking new Speedmaster!!! Omegas are such amazing watches, gens and reps. I don't think I'll ever get enough of them. Thanks for looking (once again).

I'm obviously starting the week with a new watch. Just received it.

Big thanks to lovepanerai for helping out. Very, very kind of him. This is a great community... great members!!!

PM sent.

Come on... nobody has a Navitimer extra link? Does anyone know if the dealers supply these? I feel bad for the guy I sold my watch if he can't wear it properly. Some other members have also reported that Navitimer bracelet is tight for 7'5 - 8' wrist. I'll pay for the postage and the link of course.

Hi guys. I recently traded my Breitling Navitimer to a fellow member. He has the same problem that I did... even with all links intact the bracelet is a bit too tight for a 7'5 wrist. Does anyone have a spare link to share for a German member? It would be greatly appreciated.

I think this is posted in the correct subforum. I think it's only logical to post Omega discussions to Omega subforum (gens or reps, imho). I think the subforum should be a general "Omega section" (like in TRC) instead of just Omega "photo gallery". We had a discussion about this a while back.

Great post Bill. Almost entirely my thoughts.

I have nothing to add. All the best MVB... you've been a great asset to the community.

I have this on right now:

Excellent tutorial... and definitely needed as this watch seems to have exceptional resizing method. I'm not a huge fan of titanium but the GST Ti is a great looker. Still... the white one with gold hands is my favourite GST. Maybe I'll get one eventually (if a good deal comes up).

Indeed. Great watch and great pic (as usual).

Hmm, maybe. But here's a few genuine pics and the numbers don't line up with the 5-min marks, either.

Amazing!!! I just wonder what favourite Rolly models you have left to build now. I think we can except the GMT Master coming next? PS: How about updated group shot?