TeeJay

As above, fantastic artwork, and it would indeed make a fantastic tattoo as long as it was done by an artist who would use the right needles and inks to recreate the subtleties and grain of the shading

All in the name of science Absolutely stunning photography

Awesome project I did a similar thing for a wall clock, but using a Panerai-style dial I'm not enough of an expert to comment on the shapes of the fonts, but, if this is for a clock (presumeably without a date function) I would ammend the dial to only read Oyster Perpetual, and clone the 9 marker to the 3 position Can't wait to see the finished product, mine turned out like junk, but with the right printer and paper, I'm sure you'll get a first class result

I'm sure I've read before that sometimes CGs weren't always perfectly symmetrical from the factory, but I may be mistaken...

Thanks for taking the time to do the review It's not a movement I'm likely to encounter, but it was a very informative read, thanks again

Thanks guys, that's interesting to know I wondered if it might be the modern style case with the older style dial, but wanted to be sure Having a preference for the curved sides of the vintage cases, I wonder if anyone's tried putting a 16610 dial into a 1680/1513 case?

Out of curiosity, what's the profile of the mid-case and bezel like on those? Is it like a 1680, or 16610?

That's a really nice build A 'redundant bezel' project is one possible project I'm considering myself, but it will involve the black dial variant of yours, and a modern Daytona case. It all depends on how the dial I already have marries up to the movement of the pre-Daytona I've seen available. By preference, I would like to use my panda dial for a pre-Daytona, but, if the dial isn't useable, I'll be putting the pre-D movement and dial in the modern case, for a hybrid build (I had considered that the scales would be on both dial and bezel, but hadn't considered the term 'redundant bezel', props to LHOOQ for coining the phrase )

Interesting, and disappointing reading indeed, thanks for the heads up

I agree with the above comments about Rolex sports watches and bracelets, but, and this is a big but, the dauphine hands and white dial make the watch classy/elegant/formal enough to make the strap the better (IMO) choice. The bracelet looks wrong to my eyes, with the strap looking like a perfect match for the watch I would also agree that a Tropic-Style strap would probably also work quite well, with the basket-weave texture lending enough gravitas to outweigh the 'rubber strap sportiness', so also well worth a try if you have one

Modern... None of the above, vintage all the way

Very nice build I think the bottom photo is the one which shows the dial to it's full potential, I bet it's stunning in direct sunlight at 'viewing angle'

I feel sorry for the guy that he got sold an unacceptably modified watch, but he really needs to suck it up, grow a pair, and have a word with the AD about getting a full refund. If one watch came through the shop in a modified manner, who's to say that others won't be similarly 'modified'... That AD would have lost all credibility as far as I'm concerned. The OP should be taking his business elsewhere for sure, and if he's concerned about the cost of the trips, maybe he shouldn't be buying such an expensive watch (I know, I know, it's the principle, he shouldn't have to pay out. We shouldn't have to pay out to send reps back to our dealers, but that's the way of the world...)

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That's some really nice macro work, amigo

Oh man, really sorry to hear that, bro It goes without saying, that healing thoughts and prayers are on their way

That's going to be a sweet project, can't wait to see how it comes out

Love it If someone wants 100% perfection, they should buy a the real thing or get seriously into franken building. Even the most moderately priced reps offer a reasonable approximation of the originals they are representations of which should be acceptable to anyone after a nice watch. Seeing people miss the wood for the trees makes me laugh

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Bergies, no doubt about it

That is so true, I worked out a while back that in terms of watches I've bought to cannibalize for parts, I've easily spent $500 on this one...

Natural causes with mine (ish) Tried to load the facebook app one morning, and it loaded some of my info, some of Emilys (we've both logged in on the phone before to check statuses) so I tried the homekey/top key re-boot trick. When I next turned it on, it showed the Apple logo for about 15 seconds, then the screen blacked out, and that's all it'll do Tried plugging it into the computer to do a restore via iTunes, and the computer won't even recognize that an external device has been plugged in To be fair, it has had two years worth of heavy use, and the battery life had been starting to get bad, and the top key was starting to get a bit temperemental, so I knew it was due a service, it's just wierd what happened to it I've found a company online who specialize in iPhone repairs, and once the inheritance money comes through, I'll be sending it off to the spa in hopes it can be fixed I'm not thrilled at the idea of losing 600+ photos (including wedding and portfolio work) and all the contact details I had for folks, but if they can recondition the phone and get it working again, losing the info would be a sacrifice worth paying to get it working again Fingers crossed Reasonable assumption from the available clues

I read an article a while back which pretty much said that anyone who owned an iPad was an elitist douche, and anyone wanting to own one was just a wannabe To address the point though, I would say that like Rolex (in the days of old) Apple products had a reputation for being very good for their intended purpose (ie graphics based applications) and 'the tool of professionals'. Having used an iPhone for almost two years, I can honestly say it was the most versatile piece of technology I have ever owned, and was a professionally required purchase, rather than purchassing a luxury item for 'bragging rights'. To say I'm desperate to get it fixed, is an understatemnt, as every day I am unable to use it, I realize just how useful it was as a tool (not even necessarily as a telephone) I think Rolex, like Apple, is a damned if you do, damned if you don't product. If someone is to wear a gen, someone is goingto think they are an elitist douche, and if someone wears a rep, someone else is going to think they're a wannabe. Sadly, there's not the option to say "I'm wearing a rep because I'm not prepared to buy the real thing, but I'm really not a poser, honest!" I think as mentioned above, the only important thing is to wear the watches we like, and forget what anyone else might be thinking, afterall, if they have a problem, they're the one with the problem

An interesting topic to bring up, and one which is certainly going to get some interesting discussion here. I think by discussing it here, rather than on TZ, another facet of the discussion will focus on wearing a rep rather than a gen. I think there are many gen Rolex owners who purchase the watches solely as elitist status symbols, but I know that there are also those who do not hold that view. I don't think that those two camps can be divided solely along the lines contemporary/vintage, because while there are indeed those who have their aged vintages and wear them on a daily basis, there are also those who wastefully keep them in safes, purely as 'value items' (personally, that makes me feel that people like that are missing the point of owning the product, and should instead just keep a bar of platinum in their vault) On the contemporary side, there are those who might want to purchase a watch which they feel is going to be with them a long time and give years of good service, just as there are those who want to 'buy a Rolex' so they can look like a bigshot and impress bar skanks and jailbait. They, like those who keep timepieces in safes, are missing the point of owning a watch and appreciating it for what it is. I don't own a gen Rolex and would never buy one on principle (my anti-commercialism views) yet I do appreciate the aesthetics of the Rolex models, and feel that reps give me the chance to appreciate that aesthetic without having to buy the original. Much as someone might appreciate a fine painting and hang a print of it in their home or office (because they rather obviously cannot acquire the original) I don't think my appreciation of Rolex is to do with the perceived status symbol, simply because in my time collecting, Rolex has not always held my attention as a brand, and also, because I prefer the different dial formats of the Tudor line, which while equally collectable, are only really recognized by other serious collectors (never had anyone made a comment on my Tudor subs) and do not show the Rolex branding. Would I wear a sterile Homage? On the one hand, I would say no, simply because it is not a complete recreation of the original (just as a print of the Great Wave which was missing Mt Fuji would be inaccurate and incomplete) but on the other hand, I would probably be just as capable of appreciating it 'as a watch', and enjoying it for what it does represent, rather than what it does not... Just my .2c, looking forwards to reading other's thoughts

I think you're quite right there, and a good example of that 'I want a Rolex for the sake of having a Rolex' mindset is well demonstrated here by those who post looking for 'the best sub', but never post again once they've got their answer. It's a common phenomenon, and I'd say the amount of times that question comes up, is probably a good example of how many folks in the real world gen market might think the same thing (after all, it was trying on a gen Sub which first made me look into getting a rep instead...) Of course, the varying aesthetics of the vintage models is definitely going to appeal to those with an overall interest in watches (or maybe just offer a different 'set of options' for the person choosing a single watch) but for the most part, I would definitely agree that Rolex is aiming to focus less on retention of existing customers, but more on acquiring new customers who will buy a new watch. As you say though, their goal is to make money, so I guess they're succeeding That's what the safe queens should have been used for