I understand what you are saying JohnG, but most sellers prefer to sell to supporting members as is. Now I understand if the seller sits on his watch for any length of time that would change in a heart beat. I just think there should be some reward of sorts for helping support the forum. The non paying members could read the member trade reviews and see what they are missing out on. Personally I don't sell much of anything anyway, so maybe I should not have an opinion on that, but I feel it would be enticing to upgrade if it opened another door especially to pieces with mods done to them.