AllergyDoc

Can't help but wonder why your here...after reading your comments and opinion of the members of RWG and myself. Care to enlighten us whinners (especially me)?

"you're"

Some good old HighFlyingClive humor.

The Zigmeister visits RWI? Who knew?

Don't really know TTK directly. Never ordered from and never will.

But I wish him the best.

In ALL his different aliases.

Yeah, Tony's gone from being a good dealer to setting up a web site that looks about the same as all the other "scam" sites. He advertises "Swiss" Daytonas and "Swiss" SOSF that end up being Asian level (I know because I bought one.) Sad, really. I bought about 14 watches off him on iOffer and he used to be very straight forward. I believe he has set up his site like that for the bucks.

Vintage GMT:

me='chieftang' date='Feb 17 2008, 02:31 PM' post='403501']As a side note, whenever I hear that the government should run the health care system, I feel compelled to ask whether we really want our doctor's offices operating just like our post offices.

No, we do not.

I've swam with my SlyTech many times and my SOSF a few times. And of course, the Invicta 9937 is great in the water.

Mind you, this is just swimming, not diving off a high dive.

It's so you and your gang can synchronize your watches before pulling a heist. Makes the job run smoother.

This one today:

Haven't worn it in about 6 weeks. My first "good" rep.

Tequila is the best. Sipped out of a shot glass. Any good Mexican beer.

Trader Joe's has a $20 bottle sold under their label that tastes like $60 anejo tequila. Such a deal! Look it up if you live in CA.

I agree with Omni: cheap booze isn't worth drinking. Too much regret tomorrow.

So I can tell what the time is if I wake up in the middle of the night, without having to a) try and read an alarm clock without my glasses on

Much easier to just charge the lume before bed and keep it on.

'xactly!

I wear this rep:

With it's funky cyclops and solid mid-links. It's got the best lume of any of my reps, though. I read the time at 5:00 a.m. and I don't have to squint at the clock radio.

Exp II

And there goes the neighborhood . . .

The prices are usually set when they announce a new replica. Occasionally they are not.

If it's a bad rep, it can work against them. This happened with the IWC watch that lacked the AR that was supposed to be on it. Some reviewers said the glare was so bad you could hardly see the dial, and the price has dropped.

Here are pictures of my 2 new Rolexes: an Explorer II, white dial, and a vintage GMT on a jubilee bracelet.

Why collect inexpensive replicas? I'm up to 38, about half ETA/Asian 7750 and half Asian 21J, replicas now, so few of them get a lot of wrist time. I don't feel like having a $250 replica sitting in the watch box for 2 or 3 weeks without being worn. I don't mind an $83 not being worn, though. :smile:

Explorer II:

Nice, basic Oyster bracelet. Link edges smooth, not sharp. Good clasp (sorry no pics of the clasp). Bezel pretty good. A couple of cosmetic issues.

Pretty decent printing on the dial for a low-cost watch. Date font is good.

Wrist shot shows glare, but it feels good on.

Vintage GMT:

Jubilee bracelet with hollow mid-links = very light feeling to the bracelet.

Domed plexiglass crystal makes the date font look funky. Nicely printed hour markers, etc. Dial printing is okay, not quite as sharp as on the Exp II. Non-lume markers, etc. Bezel was barely hanging on and had to be re-glued (poorly, I'm afraid).

Domed plexi-crystal and loose bezel (before gluing):

I like the way it lays on the wrist, it drapes nicely. Not overbearing or heavy. The bracelet has more "play" to it, meaning it's not stiff or rigid like the oyster bracelet. (It is available with an oyster bracelet.) I like the way it looks! I already have a scratch or two on the plexi-crystal.

A shot of the 2 with flash:

No flash:

A nice acquisition for $83 each, delivered!

Edit to add: So far, 1 week later, both are keeping excellent time.

@Allergydoc: You forgot one big lie-"the diamonds are all high quality swarovski crystals or moissanite" You and I both know that isn't true with all the bling we have......

Not moissante? Say it ain't so! I demand a refund!

THESE were supposed to be moissanite.

Looking back on when I ordered this watch from Bestswiss, the guy have laughed his head off after hanging up the phone. After sucking up the lies on their site, I told him I wanted the model with the moissanite diamonds and new MOP dial. This cost me $1,050.

I have to admit, though, it's one damn nice watch.

Agree with most all you say. Except for lie #3, a clarification. Many (majority?) of Swiss movements are mostly Chinese made at this point as well. That ones that are not probably have a very large percentage of Chinese sourced ebauches. It would probably be better to call anything with ETA on it as "Swiss assembled" these days.

Lie #6, while true, I disagree with the statement that the use of 904L steel is "one reason why they are so expensive." Three times the $2.00 (generous) worth of steel in a 316L constructed watch is a very expensive $6.00. Rolex would like for you to believe that is the reason they charge an obscene amount for their watches. The 904L steel has different qualities than 316L steel, largely due to the inclusion of copper in the alloy mixture. But it has no significant advantage other than better resistance to acidic environments. Since we are not in the habit of dropping our watches in vats of sulfuric acid--big deal! It is slightly more difficult to work with but it is all done by automated machine these days, so again who cares?

Rolex's are so expensive because people will pay that much for them. No other reason.

-T

Not a fan of Rolex, eh?

You're probably right, so I edited that phrase out. I've thought about explaining why it's not necessary for replicas, or any watch for that matter, to use 904L steel, but I want to keep the list as short as possible. If it gets too long people won't read it.

Obviously not thoroughly enough...Mea culpa!

AllergyDoc: sorry for that -and Thanks for the Top 10 :-)

No problem. I had to ask someone who Richard Brown was when I found my list on his site. I don't have a problem with him using it. Hopefully it will save a few noobs from getting scammed.

Thanks for this clarification. I've edited the list.

This is not true.... there are 7753 powered replicas (like my 188) and it is 27 jewels....

You will not see an Asian 27 jewel movement for sure though...

Most of us arrived here with minds polluted by scam sites and scam "review" sites: all peddlers of lies and deception.

In an effort to help cleanse the noobs' minds of this filth, I propose the following 10 common and devious lies and misconceptions

about replica watches, and the business of manufacturing and selling replica watches.

Lie #1: The best replica watches are made in Switzerland, followed closely by Italy.

-- This is the biggest lie of all. All replica watches are made somewhere in Asia, mostly China. Saying that replicas are made in Switzerland or Italy is a lie intended to extract more money from the ignorant.

Lie #2: Replica watches are graded according to quality. C (or whatever) is the lowest and AAA+++ (or whatever) is the highest.

-- Who decides what is "C" and what is "A"? The "International Replica Watch Governing Board"? Pure nonsense designed, again, to get more of your dollars.

Lie #3: The movements in "Swiss made" replicas are identical to the genuine watch movements. 27 jewel movements are the best.

-- (See Lie #1 for "Swiss made".) Far from the truth. Very few replica watch movements come from anywhere but China and any watchman can immediately tell it's not "genuine." There are no Asian 27 jewels movements in replica watches; only 25, 21, or 17. (A few newer replicas may use an ETA 7753, a 27-jewel movement.)

Lie #4: The best replicas are 99% true to the genuine and will even fool an Authorized Dealer (AD).

-- Not true. While some may be close (picking a number is impossible) to the genuine, all replicas are flawed. Do you really think you can spend $200 or less and get a watch that's 99% identical to a $4,000-20,000 watch? As for fooling ADs, maybe. Common clerks are easily fooled, but seasoned ADs, upon close inspection, will know it's a replica.

Lie #5: The gold on "Swiss grade" replicas is much higher than on other replicas. The crown, bezel, and mid links are solid gold and the full-gold replicas are 5-wrapped (or 6-wrapped, or whatever).

-- While a few models have been shown to have solid gold mid links (Rolex replicas), the rest of the watch is gold plated or double or triple wrapped gold. ("Search" for threads on how this is done.)

Lie #6: The best Rolex replicas are made with 904L grade steel.

-- Big fat lie. Good replicas are made with 316L quality steel. Rolex is one of the few companies that use 904L steel. While it costs 3 times as much as 316L . Replicas are not made with 440 steel, either.

Lie #7: Buying a replica watch is risky, but not if you use sellers from "Replica Review" sites.

-- What most people don't know is the "review" sites are owned and operated by the people who run the sites they recommend--it's very incestuous. These "review" sites are clever and it's easy to get taken in by their lies.

Lie #8: You can tell you're getting a good watch after a thorough examination of the web site.

-- Please. If you think everything displayed on the web is true, you deserve to be fleeced. Scam sites lie about everything, from the quality of their goods to their pledge to make sure every customer is happy. Many even post pictures of genuine watches, (Look for pictures where the watch hands are set at "10:10." Pictures of genuine watches seen in advertisements are always set to "10:10.") but send you junk.

Lie #9: Picking a good seller will always result in getting a good watch, one I won't have trouble with.

-- We wish. Quality control in replica watch factories is hit-and-miss, but mostly shoddy. One batch may be great while the next produces watches that are DOA. (Remember, making replica watches is illegal, even in China. Replica watch "factories" are usually small operations that can be easily moved or hidden from prying authorities.) What is true, though, is a good dealer will want to protect his/her reputation and will fix whatever is wrong.

Lie #10: Paying by COD is the best way to get the cheapest price. Plus, I can examine my watch before paying the courier to make sure I get what I paid for.

-- A really dumb thing to do and a huge red flag that you're dealing with a true scammer. They want cash because they know you'll scream foul to your credit card company the moment you see the junk you just paid $1,000 for.

One final point. Remember, replica watches are counterfeit goods. While it is not illegal to purchase or possess replica watches in most countries, it is illegal to sell them. Keep this in mind when using PayPal or communicating with credit card companies.

Wow! Thanks, I think even I could do (some) of that. I have a SSD coming.

(Love that siggy, too!)

I wear this inexpensive SMP. With the diver's extension open it fits perfectly over my lifting gloves.

(I wear the one on the right, obviously.)

I wore my 127 yesterday and that was the 1st PAM I've worn in, like 4 weeks. It's Rollies every day. I'm even thinking of selling them now . . .

I let my County Sheriff's Police next-door neighbor park his Squad between our two houses

And when he's out on patrol?