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sub hands? I had tons of those.... as for the 16014 case, I'm assuming you mean the stick hands, I just got some from jules boro this week. white tudor stick.... I'm of town right now, or I'd tell you the part number.

for everyone who didn't see it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JMOh-cul6M

What I realized today is that it is way harder to build a watch for someone else than to build it for yourself. Me and my buddy have a project going, my gift to him was to build him a frankenjust with parts that he supplied, and some more parts that I could source. He sent me a 16234 case and dial from the hungarian guy on ebay, and a white MOP diamond dial. I ordered the band, and movement from ebay, datewheel overlay from cubic-works, and then bought a clasp from one of our dealers, we decided on the newest style even though the current DJ has no holes. I also ordered some parts and hands from jules boro with help from stilty. Anyway, the MOP dial came bent, and could not fit properly on the movement, the glue wouldn't even hold it on properly. I had already chopped the feet when I noticed, so return was out of the question. I decided that I had 2 choices, send it out to a refinisher, and get "swiss made" inscribed instead of merely "swiss," and get it flattened out while I was at it, or take the chance and try to make it usable myself. I picked the second choice, and finally, after about 10 minutes of lightly bending over a piece of rolled cloth.......SNAP.....A hairline crack all the way across the dial. Looks like I'll be giving kirk rich a call anyway. The company is on vacation until the 2nd, so I'm guessing it will be a while before it gets done. Oh well, lesson learned, next time I'll try to bend the movement. Anybody have a ballpark on their pricing? If it's too high, I'll just buy another dial and sell this one as is. A little bit of a bummer, and a definite setback, but hey, what are you gonna do.........

Eh too late.

Well, I got the movement in today, and it seriously only took about 15 minutes to put everything together, no hitches, no hassles, just beautiful. No gluing the hands, no glue on the dial, just great to have something go together so perfectly on the first try. Every hand lined up, and they all reset perfectly. I am one happy camper. There are now no issues, I had to clip one of the pusher stems, but that took just a few seconds. He even sent me a black seconds hand with a white arrow tip on it, but I didn't put that one on since the tube is too big. That is the more accurate hand, is it not? Probably goes better with a different dial.

I don't know, haven't seen any besides mine and freddy's on here yet. We'll see what happens when my friend gets his in. It wasn't too expensive either, but I did buy a V72 kit and extra dial so he gave me a deal on this one, it was only a little more than the cartel watches. Basically, he sells it for about 40-50 more than them, but they are much more accurate. For the same price you can get the mystery movement (copy V23) with correct subdial spacing and faux subdial at 6, or this rotorless 7750 version. It seems that the case on the 7750 version is the same as the v72, but machined more to fit the 7750. Don't quote me on that though. Now that I think of it though, the 7750 case has a shallower rehaut, so it probably is just a machined V72 case. Also, it wouldn't matter how the watch came, I would mess with something whether it be the band, crown, crystal, it just doesn't matter, I always find something to play with. This is my first chrono , so I'm a little perplexed about the intricacies of the movement. I'm sure someone else would have figured it out by now. I'll play with this movement now and try to learn as much as I can, so in the end, it's all worth it to me. Some may think I'm crazy for just buying a whole new movement, but now I don't have to worry about what happens when I play around with this one.

I did have it out of the case, it was in my movement holder and still nothing worked. I was willing to pay for a new movement to speed up the process since I am sure that there is an issue somewhere with the chrono. The second hand was resetting to about 7 after, and the sub at 6 wasn't "wandering", but resetting off center. I know that one is easy, but I'm just too jammed up right now. With the holidays and the holiday schedule I'm maintaining at work, I decieded that this is the least headache inducing choice. Good point on the sticker BTW, and thanks for showing the pic that started all of this daytona stuff for me too I want to spend the money on a gen band for the V72 kit, but I'll go with a better aftermarket band for this one, but I suppose I can just swap them around. We'll see. My best friend even caught the fever now, and I'm supposed to be ordering him one tomorrow night. Fun stuff.

There seems to be a few bent levers in the mechinism for the chrono buttons, David and I were emailing pictures back and forth, and have decided for a time saving factor to just replace the movement. He understands that I tried, and I understand that it's not a dud movement, so we came to some decent terms on price. He's also sending me some new hands, and I bought a 6265 bezel in case I want to use that on my upcoming V72. For that one, I'm not sure if I want to go with 6263 with the black dial, or the 6265 with the white dial. As for this quasi-7760, I just want to put a decent aftermarket band and clasp on there, and probably a gen triplock crown. The current band feels too light for my taste. I think that's all I'll do for this watch though, I'll take my time and go all out on the V72. (or V72's) Freddy, do you know off-hand how much your V72 daytonas weigh in at? (in grams?) And thanks for that link, I was looking for that post, as well as your others on the 7750. I'm assuming that when I place the hands, I should first reset the chrono, and then place every hand at the 12:00 position for correct alignment, and then start and stop it a few times to fine tune the positioning. Any other tips on this from anyone? What about caseback stickers? I think that would be a nice touch to the finished project

Well, I figured out what the deal is with the chrono.......sort of. The stem for the stop/start pusher is too long, and is putting pressure on the movement at all times. I guess I'll chop it down, but I have no time right now. The reset button's lever is slightly bent, so it actually goes over what it's supposed to push. Now, I must have done something, because the chrono won't start now. I am always careful, and did not even bump anything but after resetting the chrono a couple of times, it doesn't work anymore. I see a lever that should be moving, but isn't when I start it, but I have not yet had the time to figure out why. I so jammed up for the next couple of weeks that I may just have to take it to my watch smith. I don't really have to be doing anything, David said he'd take care of it, but then what's the fun, right? Oh, and the seconds hand isn't resetting to 12:00. Here's some pics if anyone has some ideas that could help. Now, I have some serious searching to do. Ok, circled in red is the lever that when moved, starts the chrono, but does not move when the button is pushed. Circled in blue is the bent lever for the reset button. Here is a closer view of the reset button:

Freddy, I just looked at it again, and it seems my hour totalizer hand is also wandering just like on yours when you first converted it. I stopped the chrono, but the bottom pusher still doesn't move. It feels like it's the pusher, but I can't even explain how it feels that way. I'll have to check it out tomorrow or Friday. I planned on buying the ofrei pushers and a Gen crown anyway, so this is no biggie for me. Oh yes, and isn't the arrow on the seconds hand supposed to be black, or is that maybe the 6265?

I just got my package from DW today, a 7760 (actually 7750 with rotor removed), and it looks pretty good. Also received the v72 kit for the same watch. I took a few hasty pics, as I am pressed for time since I do need to go to work soon, but here goes. I intend on doing a full review with better pics when time permits. The clasp on the watch was on backwards, but no big deal, since I had to remove links anyway to size it. That was more amusing than anything. The watch came in a plastic bag marked rolex, and even came with a hang tag, which I thought was an interesting touch. Comparing this to the V72 dial, the subdials are a little more spread out, about .75mm closer to the white border. The white also appears brighter, as the v72 dial seems more yellowish, but it could be the crystal making it appear this way. As far as I can tell for now, the outside of the cases appear to be identical, and this 7760 version obviously has the asymmetrically placed pushers. The only thing wrong, it seems, is that the entire pushers unscrewed when I tried them out. I'm going to have to fix that, also the bottom pusher doesn't press in, and I don't want to force it. I think that perhaps the stem for that pusher is too short. Now, as I have never really bothered about chronos, I have no idea what these buttons are supposed to do. There's 2 extra buttons on the watch besides the crown, and neither one lights up the watch so..... Apparently, the top pusher stops the main seconds hand while the seconds at 9 keeps running. Am I supposed to leave it moving? Since I can't press the bottom button yet, What is that one supposed to do anyway? I see the running seconds working, but what are the other 2 sub dials supposed to do and what are they used for? A noob question for sure, but I couldn't find a dummy guide to chronos anywhere, and I just figured that I would worry about it when I finally got one. Anyway, here's the pics, enjoy: Father and son: side view with pushers: Dead on: The movement:

Now I guess I have to ask, are there any members in the area that would ever like a GTG in Chicago or in the chicagoland area? It's too cold for me right now, I would rather be able to frolic outside with my fellow reppies, but I'm really open to any time of the year. We could make it a big bang downtown at a nice or trendy restaurant (Brazilian Steakhouse?), Millennium park, a hotel, whatever. All of this could happen in the suburbs too, Schaumburg has a lot to offer, as well as other locales, and perhaps the suburbs might turn out to be the most central location. What I propose for now, is for any local members, if interested, to start throwing around some ideas in this thread here, and maybe we could work out some kind of plan.

Whoa! Looks like the date window is crooked too now....WTF is going on here? Based on a previous question I asked, newer ones should say "swiss made" and not just "swiss," so apparently these should be old enough to say singer on them. Looks like I should stay away from this one. $845...what?!

I've wondered if people would be interested in a GTG, and even so, I missed whatever thread this was posted on anyway. I do go up there occasionally, but only in the summer. Now, what about a good old fashioned Chi-town meet? It is home of the worlds (2nd?) busiest airport......

apparently, these are used dials, so they seem WAY overpriced to me. They don't say singer on the back either, is that good, bad, or neutral? http://cgi.ebay.com/Rolex-Perpetual-Dateju...emZ150195321844 They guy my friend ordered his dial from sent a womens dial instead of mans, so we're back to shopping for a gen MOP diamond dial. I don't think this is going to be done even before new year's. I keep tellling him that frankens aren't meant to be made in a few weeks.......

"i didnt ware this watch" and "as-is with no implied warrenty" No spell, no bid for me. I'm done feeling sorry for all the dipsticks that bid on this junk. They're as dumb as the scammers, except with more money.

Avitt- Those look like gen dials. I did some searching, who is timeman?

definately looks like a dg2813. Why didn't they just stamp 3135 on it?

If it's any consolation, it is Federal time, so the guidelines state that offenders are only allowed (5?) days of good time per month. Basically, he has to complete 85% of his sentence, which would be about 19 1/2 months. There is no way to get out earlier. Oh, and since its fed time, they can send him to any federal prison in the country. Offenders can request a prison close to home for hardship reasons, i.e. ailing family member who can't travel far distances for visits, but they do not have to accommodate or even consider such requests.

That's not sapphire...that's Neon! I like it. I don't like the price tag though BTW, the link doesn't work, try this one here

wow, i almost forgot about this thread. Glad it worked out! I was even thinking of deleting the link so nobody could risk getting ripped, but I'm glad I didn't, and even more happy it went well.

watch someone buy it too

haha.....but didn't he have to bang it the rest of the way on with his boot or something?

you might not even have to take it off to clean it. It might be the cheap AR getting funky if that watch has it on both sides. If it is the cheap AR, it should come off with soap and water. Just take off the caseback and remove the movement. Dry everything off thoroughly before reinstalling the movement. Clean environment is key, and don't handle the movement more than necessary, wear rubber gloves if you can. Whatever you do, don't try to put the crystal back on with a freakin hockey puck!

thanks, now the question is does it have anything to do with valjoux? I was searching valjoux and this came up, described as valljoux, landeron chronograph. Aren't they 2 separate unrelated movements? I think we're looking at a 151 here, it has a chronographe swiss animagnetic dial on it.