kbh Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Just picked this up and would like to hear from the pros how good/bad this is. Lume (in a semi-bright room): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Hmmmmm... This isn't a 1680 dial per se, but rather a version (and a pretty bad one at that) of the 16800 sapphire/matte Submariner with 3035. Not entirely sure where to start with it, but all around, the fonts, the coronet, the datewindow... All not exactly good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Hmmm, wouldn't even come close to passing the "arms length" away test. Sorry.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanuq Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Zee elusive Zubmariner, as viewed in a mirror? Hey I've seen worse. The first canal street version I bought was a SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted May 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 ll you're right about the 16800 matte dial. It's a refinished gen by International Dial in Wilmington Ohio. Fortunately it looks much better when it's not magnified 10x and I got it for next too nothing. The printing does look pretty crappy when magnified though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce79 Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Seeing as there aren't any rep 16800 matte dials that I've seen, this one is the next best thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted May 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Zee dial iz not zo bad when smaller, no? And it does have excellent lume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 24, 2010 Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 There are a couple of reproduction 16800 dials out there; they all have their faults, so you have to figure out which ones bother you the least/most and choose accordingly. At the end of the day, you're building for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I really is kind of a mess. The coronet may be among the worst that I've seen on a rep. The dial looks like it was printed from a computer program without font smoothing...or something. Sorry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmj Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I really is kind of a mess. The coronet may be among the worst that I've seen on a rep. The dial looks like it was printed from a computer program without font smoothing...or something. Sorry! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddy333 Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 I have to agree with most of the previous comments. Could be worse, but could be better. In general, try to avoid vintage dials with glowing lume (a 30+ year old Rolex dial will have little or no glow). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 To be perfectly honest I got the exact responses that I expected. But as Ubi said, "at the end of the day you're building it for yourself". This is going into a old MBK cased Sub that had keyless works problem that I paid $60 for. So I'm going to have a newly superlumed vintage Sub with a refinished gen dial and an a nicely working clone movement for less than $125 . So what if it glows like Chernobyl? I'm pretty damn sure I'll get my money's worth of fun out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubiquitous Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Indeed- We can discuss the +/- of any dial or part to great lengths and extent, but what really matters is how you feel about the dial/parts/project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Indeed- We can discuss the +/- of any dial or part to great lengths and extent, but what really matters is how you feel about the dial/parts/project Yep! Never had a super franken in mind. It would be interesting to have International Dial give us their opinion on this thread, since they're supposed to be one of the top dial refinishers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 To be perfectly honest I got the exact responses that I expected. But as Ubi said, "at the end of the day you're building it for yourself". This is going into a old MBK cased Sub that had keyless works problem that I paid $60 for. So I'm going to have a newly superlumed vintage Sub with a refinished gen dial and an a nicely working clone movement for less than $125 . So what if it glows like Chernobyl? I'm pretty damn sure I'll get my money's worth of fun out of it. That's what it's all about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dluddy Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 That is what this hobby is all about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 personally i think the print is very sloppy/incorrect (size, thickeness) and wouldnt believe it was gen. i do love the 16800 despite it being the most 'unpopular' sub ref tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted May 27, 2010 Report Share Posted May 27, 2010 FWIW, I'm certainly partial to the 16800 matte dial sub. And I especially love good lume on a rep or franken. And kbh, if you have an MBK case with lugholes, all the better! Some of my favorite watches are the ones I have the least amount of money in! Like my MKII 'Exploder' An old Silix 6694 w/ a T-12 crystal,MKII dial and hands and a Swiss eta- I paid $130 for the 6694 4-5 years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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