andyc2 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 I've got a RG RC ROO secs @ 12 winging its way to me, and it's going straight to Francisco when it arrives for the movement upgrade, service and a lume. Question is - do I get the AR done? I know the gen doesn't have any AR, but there are many pics on this forum of watches that have been modded in this way and they look impressive. Dilemma..... 1
wheaton26 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 tough decision, but one i made with both of my roo's and am very happy. see below my two cheif ar'd versions ...
fitipaldi Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 I've got a RG RC ROO secs @ 12 winging its way to me, and it's going straight to Francisco when it arrives for the movement upgrade, service and a lume. Question is - do I get the AR done? I know the gen doesn't have any AR, but there are many pics on this forum of watches that have been modded in this way and they look impressive. Dilemma..... Hi, you don't need to think too much..just GO FOR IT!!! Take a look of my APs, both with double AR (Volcano with Chief's AR and Grey Themes with Uwe's AR):
txcollector Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 I don't have AR on mine. The flat crystal doesn't provide that much reflection and I don't see the point in making the watch less gen like. The thickness of the watch is a great tell already, why bring more attention to it?
Mickey Padge Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 I would consider single sided colourless AR, but not sure about the double sided AR
Guest Sql_pl Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 I love AR coatings but would not coat a watch that does not have it in gen form.
Imaknockov Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 I love AR coatings but would not coat a watch that does not have it in gen form. Technically, the date magnifiers do have an AR coating... At least on the newer watches.
Guest Sql_pl Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 Sure but the question was about crystals.
edgematic1 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Posted January 25, 2011 I also would not do it.. I'll mod them with an AR'ed cyclop though. Ordered one from domi
tutima Posted January 26, 2011 Report Posted January 26, 2011 The AR actually brings out the dial and Make the watch more gen look as the rep crystal is nowhere near the gen crystal quality...Just make sure you don't use intrusive colored AR... Here is my RC with very light yellowgreenish AR in daylight...
Defender110 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Posted January 26, 2011 +1 tutima the rep crystals are NOT the same quality of the gen crystals so while the gen may not have AR, AR on the rep does gives a more visible pop to the watch.
mbjoer Posted January 26, 2011 Report Posted January 26, 2011 Different crystals have different reflections. The MBW has far less reflection than the sec@12 and I suspect that is the case with the Gen as well. Hence the comparison to the Gen is not completely relevant. I have had my Black Themes done. It has been a very good investment, transforming a rep looking good into a luxury watch. - Which is how it should be.
fitipaldi Posted January 26, 2011 Report Posted January 26, 2011 The AR actually brings out the dial and Make the watch more gen look as the rep crystal is nowhere near the gen crystal quality...Just make sure you don't use intrusive colored AR... Here is my RC with very light yellowgreenish AR in daylight... Exactly!! you have made an excellent point. Crystal not treated with AR gives a significant light reflection. To have a more "gen look" I suggest you to go with Uwe's double AR (in EU zone) because his AR has a little light reflection just like the gen. Chief's AR will not give you any reflection (is like the watch doesn't have a crystal installed). In this picture you can see the differences:
Francisco Posted January 26, 2011 Report Posted January 26, 2011 I made a comparison for AP, AR vs no AR here:
tutima Posted January 26, 2011 Report Posted January 26, 2011 Another shot of the AR'd crystal under indoor light...
pabler Posted January 27, 2011 Report Posted January 27, 2011 Probably there are models that need it more than others (black dialed ones).
edgematic1 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Posted January 28, 2011 fitipaldi, you need to stop posting those pics! they look too hot man!
andyc2 Posted January 29, 2011 Author Report Posted January 29, 2011 Well, many thanks for all of the helpful and constructive comments. When my new baby arrives, it is going to Uwe for his double AR / cyclops / re-lume work, and then to Domi for the secs at 12 movement upgrade and a full service. (I'm assuming it would be best doing the work in that sequence? Comments appreciated). It's going to add a significant amount of money to the cost of the watch, but hopefully it will be worth it! Maybe I should start saving up and begin thinking about a nice black hornback strap from AP Bands as well..................
goodfella0406 Posted August 30, 2013 Report Posted August 30, 2013 I've got a RG RC ROO secs @ 12 winging its way to me, and it's going straight to Francisco when it arrives for the movement upgrade, service and a lume. Question is - do I get the AR done? I know the gen doesn't have any AR, but there are many pics on this forum of watches that have been modded in this way and they look impressive. Dilemma..... Just reading this as I am back on the boards.. Im curious what did you decide? and who did the work?
goodfella0406 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 tough decision, but one i made with both of my roo's and am very happy. see below my two cheif ar'd versions ... Sir, it has been a very long time it is so nice to see you still here, these pics are amazing. After my little hiatus I am back and wanting to do just this with both these watches. I love that you got the white face SS RC, it looks incredible. I had the black dial but it didn't make it this long. I want to get the white face and service it like this... lume and AR? I have some movement issues with my watches from way back when and it's time to fix them and get some new hardware. I would love to discuss further the great work that you had done. Hope all is well, again, happy to see you still here a few guys from those early days aren't around.
6r360r10 Posted August 31, 2013 Report Posted August 31, 2013 Totally YESSSS!!Enviado desde mi iPad con Tapatalk HD
Motoman4540 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Posted September 10, 2013 I couldn't appreciate AR until I had it done on my Don Ramon. Seemed like a waste of time and money, but I figured that the "experts" have more experience and are gungho about it for a reason. So while it was at Vac's anyway, I took the leap of faith. The AR adds a difficult to quantify quality to it. The dial seems to pop out more, and the watch looks more gen-like. Now aim in the process of having each of my APs AR'd. They just look better, sharper. Try one and see how you like it. I'm happy that I did!
Yoshi76 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I made a comparison for AP, AR vs no AR here: http://www.rwgforum.com/topic/126292-ar-treatment-applied-to-aps-2geek-and-fine-dd/ How can i get in touch with you Francisco?
buffedupboy Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 Gen has AR on both sides, just that it is a very very thin coating. It can be scratched and hence buffed off. Hence it does look like there isn't any, but that is what gives it that quality.
PeteM Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 How can i get in touch with you Francisco? He aint doing work anymore mate... If its AR for an AP you are after then wait out for Ryans AR cystal run for APs it almost perfected colourless...shouldnt be long mate.. he has done a few alreadyt that look very good but he wanyts better AP gens dont have AR ...its all about the crytsal quality... not AR mate... we just need to do it because rep crystals are flawed
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