mastrmindalliance Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Damn that's good. BTW Josh is undercutting Angus by $20 on these.
redwatch Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Fantastic comparison C! Thanks for posting such a compreshensive side-by-side!!! What are your thoughts on this one?
StormTooper4 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Blimey not a lot in is there. Lucky the movements are different so you could pick the Gen Thanks for the comparison. ST4
subbiesrock Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 The hands are absolutely spot on. The dial cutoutsand text are clearly bolder, but the case is spot on. Stunning replication, and definitely tough to distinguish. Excellent work by the factory and Angus on this one.
Mo_till Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 It seems as if the AR coating is weaker on the rep. Anyway - good replication.
Lobster Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Jeessuusss ... seriously, a year ago I thought they would never be able to bring a good 312 rep out... but they have done really well on these new offerings, incl the 359. I mean, Pam only rules now with this watch because of the sexy in house movement they made for this one, and congrats for owning it bro. But the rep is serious business.
subbiesrock Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Damn that's good. BTW Josh is undercutting Angus by $20 on these. On this newly released version or the older models? Might take a look-see...
mellons Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 impressive looking piece- it it getting to the point where tells are needed to distinguish between gen and rep.....
subbiesrock Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 (edited) The versions at the other dealers are not these latest releases, the cote de Geneve engraving as seen through the caseback of the latest release is an obvious tell. Wheaton, as promised, you put up a great comparative pictorial, the two brothers from different mothers should be enjoyed Edited May 21, 2011 by subbiesrock
Rolexman Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Damn that's good. BTW Josh is undercutting Angus by $20 on these. Did anyone see that Andrew states 312 V1 in the product description?...... maybe a V2 will be released soon
TK471 Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 That is really remarkable. What a great job. For the price? Ridiculous.
Mo_till Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Did anyone see that Andrew states 312 V1 in the product description?...... maybe a V2 will be released soon Current models are described as Best Version. We know that the Ultimate Version is comming :-)
wheaton26 Posted May 21, 2011 Author Report Posted May 21, 2011 Fantastic comparison C! Thanks for posting such a compreshensive side-by-side!!! What are your thoughts on this one? thanks for the comments guys. i purchased this 328 for the sole purpose of an rwg side by side review. i do not plan on keeping this so please keep an eye open for a sales post over the next couple of days. besides the movement / caseback, the biggest tell for me is the crown guard and lever. the crown guard seems to be a little bigger and the "reg. t.m." font is definitely wrong. the actual lever can be reshaped to look a little more gen like, but i don't trust myself to attempt mods. other than that, this version is very impressive! as a few have mentioned (and my dealer has confirmed), there is an ultimate version in the works. but we all know how that goes ... it could be months away and some things will be better and some will be worse. if you're on the fence, i wouldn't hesitate for the money. all the best.
OSRep Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Hey Wheaton, thanks for the effort in putting the comparison together - fantastic!! I think the pics speak for themselves - and its a darn good rep!..... First noticeable differences are: (1) Clarity of the crystal - rep looks a little cloudy. The black on the gen dial "pops" more! (2) Engraving on the CG is crisp on the gen (3) Date font on the rep is slightly bolder (4) Second hand is slightly shorter / stubbier (5) All the font / markers etc on the rep seem ever-so-slightly bolder Otherwise its fantastic (if you dont have the gen next to it)
pabler Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Really impessive wheaton. Good job with this comparo! It's getting more and more Gen like.
Jkay Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 Hey Wheaton, thanks for the effort in putting the comparison together - fantastic!! I think the pics speak for themselves - and its a darn good rep!..... First noticeable differences are: (1) Clarity of the crystal - rep looks a little cloudy. The black on the gen dial "pops" more! (2) Engraving on the CG is crisp on the gen (3) Date font on the rep is slightly bolder (4) Second hand is slightly shorter / stubbier (5) All the font / markers etc on the rep seem ever-so-slightly bolder Otherwise its fantastic (if you dont have the gen next to it) You forgot to mention that the Gen needs a CP FIX .. It's not flush. an OUTRAGE bwaahahaha
mastrmindalliance Posted May 21, 2011 Report Posted May 21, 2011 The versions at the other dealers are not these latest releases, the cote de Geneve engraving as seen through the caseback of the latest release is an obvious tell. http://www.1-pc8838.com/pn328l01-328l-1950-days-auto-ssss-asian-7750-p-10136.html
subbiesrock Posted May 23, 2011 Report Posted May 23, 2011 http://www.1-pc8838.com/pn328l01-328l-1950-days-auto-ssss-asian-7750-p-10136.html Mmm, eating my own words... Touché MMA, I searched through the list of Luminor Automatics, but must have missed this one. You were right, this is very competitively priced.
justlounging Posted May 23, 2011 Report Posted May 23, 2011 fantastic comparison review...pictures do say more than a thousand words.. where's the 'like' button?? +1
robertb Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 Panerai used both styles of fonts on the 312/328/320/329/339/305 so both would be gen correct.
R_Squared Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 thanks for the comments guys. i purchased this 328 for the sole purpose of an rwg side by side review. i do not plan on keeping this so please keep an eye open for a sales post over the next couple of days. besides the movement / caseback, the biggest tell for me is the crown guard and lever. the crown guard seems to be a little bigger and the "reg. t.m." font is definitely wrong. the actual lever can be reshaped to look a little more gen like, but i don't trust myself to attempt mods. other than that, this version is very impressive! as a few have mentioned (and my dealer has confirmed), there is an ultimate version in the works. but we all know how that goes ... it could be months away and some things will be better and some will be worse. if you're on the fence, i wouldn't hesitate for the money. all the best. The "Reg. T.M." font is quite correct on the rep also. The gen CG for the 1950 models do come with different font engravings. Here's a couple of gen pics of the 312/359 CG's with similar font/shape/positioning as the rep: http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6007/dsc04570a.jpg http://img862.imageshack.us/i/56197763.jpg
Lobster Posted May 28, 2011 Report Posted May 28, 2011 what a nice review, thanks It really is! I was talking to Ingenieur today and we both agreed that this post has pushed us for going for the 312
ebzen02 Posted May 31, 2011 Report Posted May 31, 2011 I love my 312 and if they come out with the ultimate 1:1 with p.9000 rep..I will be all over it! I hear a 389 is coming out in the fall with a p.9000 replication...hmmmm Christmas will be a nice time of year this year...
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