dutchguy2 Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 So I bought the best 5513 version from Josh with 21J movement for 118 USD plus shipping. It is a kind of replica from the MBW 5513 and has even "POLEX" between the lugs. As the MBW it accepts a gen crystal. I was lucky to find a used 25-19 crystal for 40 USD. I had to sand down the botom mm of the crystal to have the retaining ring fit. The crown is to thick but it is pretty easy to sand it down a bit, won't be the same as a gen crown but for a budget build it can do. The crown guards are to short and to thick, i sanded them smaller, more pointy and took a little of the case, there where the tube goes in the case, to make them a little bit longer. I had a vintagized insert laying arround and put that in the bezel. Of coarse you can vintagize the insert that comes with the watch. Then I relumed the dial. The stock dial looks ok but has no lume. The hands are ok. Here is the result for 118 plus 40 USD plus a little lume and labor. I'm not finished jet, need to do some more sanding/filing and polishing. Thanks for looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker01 Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Nicely done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woof* Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djmattm Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 very nice indeed!! Bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Looks great but you've got to do something with the crown. It's way too tall. Maybe a gen crown would fit on the existing tube, or like you said, file down the crown that's on there. But it's a good deal for what you've spent, now you just have to hope that the a21j holds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Looks great but you've got to do something with the crown. It's way too tall. Maybe a gen crown would fit on the existing tube, or like you said, file down the crown that's on there. But it's a good deal for what you've spent, now you just have to hope that the a21j holds up. Yes, your right a gen crown would make a difference. I have a couple at home but they don't fit in the exsisting tube and I am awaiting some tubes for the gen crowns. The one on this watch is already filed down The 21j are prety stable and you can buy a new one for arround 30USD. Off topic, how is it going in Texas? Any trouble with the fire? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 sweet looking mate, when you change the tube try and lower the crown seat just a touch more and it will be even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 sweet looking mate, when you change the tube try and lower the crown seat just a touch more and it will be even better Thanks Andy. Can you explain what you mean with lowering the crown seat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 you know the flat part that the crown trub screws into? well if you remove 1/2mm from that then the crown guards will look longer and will also bring the base of the crown a bit closer to the bezel like the gen like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Copied mate. Actually I allready did this but aparantly not enough LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Looks very good mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Copied mate. Actually I allready did this but aparantly not enough LOL. its not far off though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Very nice work, amigo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Looks good, expect the crown So for this small amount of money it's a winner for shure. The Base Case Looks good in my opinion, how about the Retaining Ring is a gasket needed to held on the Crystal? Snaps the Insert in the bezel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted September 1, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Looks good, expect the crown So for this small amount of money it's a winner for shure. The Base Case Looks good in my opinion, how about the Retaining Ring is a gasket needed to held on the Crystal? Snaps the Insert in the bezel? Thanks for the compliment. No, there is no gasket needed. It s actually the same as the MBW I had. The insert snaps in the bezel and stay's there very secure without any glue. There is even a gasket space under the retaining ring like on the gen (although they forgot a gasket ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 (edited) Thanks for the compliment. No, there is no gasket needed. It s actually the same as the MBW I had. The insert snaps in the bezel and stay's there very secure without any glue. There is even a gasket space under the retaining ring like on the gen (although they forgot a gasket ) Great to know, so I'm thinking to buy some budget ones to build some nice Vintages. The Csae seems a really good base and after a complete reshape and some Gen Parts it will be really nice. Edited September 1, 2011 by Tribal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted September 1, 2011 Report Share Posted September 1, 2011 Looking Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Very fine looking watch, my friend! IMO that's the art of this hobby - to build accurate looking watches with a small budget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuyingseller Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't it say 600ft=200m and not 200m=600ft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Looks good. I actually build something like this using a similar combination, but didn't age it. I think I will now 1/2mm will not set the crown deep enough. You can always get a 700 crown and it will "lower" as it is narrower. E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dutchguy2 Posted September 2, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't it say 600ft=200m and not 200m=600ft? There are feet first and meter first 5513's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bones Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 Looks good mate, i love a budget build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preacher62 Posted September 2, 2011 Report Share Posted September 2, 2011 (edited) I took the crown from my Josh 5513 and chucked it in a variable speed cordless drill leaving enough space between the crown and the chuck to get a sanding disk in. Then I used a 1" sanding disk, turned over, in a Dreml tool. You set the sanding disk at the angle you want on the base of the crown, then turn the Dreml on slow and start the drill turning slowly. Voila...poor man's machining lathe. 5 minute job. Mine came out like this, but I appreciate the advice on milling down the crown seat in the case. I will add that for sure. Never thought of it. I think these cases are usable. We just learn something each day. Oh...and I also took some off the tube so it is still watertight. Edited September 3, 2011 by preacher62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highoeyazmuhudee Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 I took the crown from my Josh 5513 and chucked it in a variable speed cordless drill leaving enough space between the crown and the chuck to get a sanding disk in. Then I used a 1" sanding disk, turned over, in a Dreml tool. You set the sanding disk at the angle you want on the base of the crown, then turn the Dreml on slow and start the drill turning slowly. Voila...poor man's machining lathe. 5 minute job. Mine came out like this, but I appreciate the advice on milling down the crown seat in the case. I will add that for sure. Never thought of it. I think these cases are usable. We just learn something each day. Oh...and I also took some off the tube so it is still watertight. very innovative. i like it im gonna try and make me some 702 crowns right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 On a separated topic, where is everyone getting their movement clamps and screws from? E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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