Erict719 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I passed with 5 ATM , is that good for swim? also , the watch smith lube the stem instead of the rubber ring in the crown. Is that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSTEEL Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Not really, 6bar + then you should be ok to swim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erict719 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 darn... He only got 5atm tester. is it easier to screw up the watch in hot tub then swimming pool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I have swam in plenty of sports style reps that are only tested to 5bar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogladio Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I messed up a watch that was just tested OK up till 4 atm - so think you should have above that at least... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erict719 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I seen write up about rep that goes 200m ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 A lot of reps probably can with the right QC but there are not that many people that can test to 20atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamcky2k Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 if all the seals are greased, the crystal is sat right in the gasket and crown o-rings are present and screw down tight you should be ok...if 50m (5atm) is the most the machine could go and it passed fine it would probably go higher on another machine that could test higher. my old seawolf rep went to 100m on a tester and that was straight from the factory... i normally go by the rule 50m (5atm)-ok for washing hands, out in the rain etc, 100m (10atm) bathing, shower, swimming pool etc and 200m (20atm)+ swimming/snorkelling, shallow diving etc anything over that can handle anything. if you wanna go swimming with a watch, why not just get a seiko skx007/009...they come in black (007) or blue (009) and are iso rated to 200m to be called a true divers watch, they have outstanding lume, look superb...and all for $195...keep your rep then for when you leave the pool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbh Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I've tested most of my dive watches to 5 atm and none have ever failed me in the pool or at the beach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erict719 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I have shower with the watch on before. Totally no problem. A question tho, the watch smith have greased the ring in case back, and the steam, but not the o ring in the crown. he said put it on the steam is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 (edited) It also depends on which rep you're talking about. I have gone on 50+ foot dives with a Noobmariner, SSD, and the 16800 Franken in built last year. The less gasket area the watch has, the less chances of a leak. After a nice seal of the HEV(not really necessary, but doesnt hurt) a good and well gasketted and lubed SSD can definitely go deep. If its' a chronograph, I say keep it dry. If it's a dive watch, grease it, and go deep. Edited April 1, 2013 by Ephry73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doraemon Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 A lot of reps probably can with the right QC but there are not that many people that can test to 20atm Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erict719 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Mine is wm9 v3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmeister Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 If yours passed the 5 atm test and the issue was that the testing device didn't go any higher (rather than failure at 5 atm) I would go for it. But it isn't my watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alligoat Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Mine is wm9 v3 With a WM9 V3, you should be fine for swimming. Since the WM9 copies the gen 16610 submariner construction, it should be able to do better than a simple swim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erict719 Posted April 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Its hard to find a tester over 10 ATM lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceejay Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I took my new (Joshua) Pam177 into a little watch repair shop last week. They had one of those little glass dome machines, 30 seconds later it failed. The guy tried it again on another setting? And it failed again. The watch looks perfect and everything is tight but it failed. I don't know how reliable those little machines are but until I can get it serviced and greased up it won't be going near water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jkay Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 If it passes 3ATM you are good to swim, no problem at all. Do not use this for serious diving. The depth numbers people have been quoting in this thread are from professional diving safety charts for watches. You can safely ignore all that crap. It's written by lawyers. It's not meant for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielv2000 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 3atm is all I can test locally and that's good enough for swimming in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ephry73 Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Wm9 should be ok. Make sure that your case back gasket is fresh and lubed. The crown oring is also important to be both fresh, as well as well lubed. That with the outer oring of the tube is your first line of defense. 5atm is not bad brother. Just no diving boards or hot tubs. Hot tubs are bad for seals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erict719 Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 If it passes 3ATM you are good to swim, no problem at all. Do not use this for serious diving. The depth numbers people have been quoting in this thread are from professional diving safety charts for watches. You can safely ignore all that crap. It's written by lawyers. It's not meant for you. lol! This is a good and funny point man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Although just for lawyers it does have an a bit of common sence as we are not talking about pure depth when talking about water resistance as that only deals with static pressure but when swimming we have to think about the dynamic pressures the watch will experience <br />For example if you slowly get in the pool and sink 10 m then you will experience 10m of pressure <br />But even as you swim on the surface and drag the watch through the water with every stroke you could exceed 10m of pressure depending on how you swim just think of the difference de between a gentle breast stroke and a fast front crawl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erict719 Posted April 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 As I was asking before. the watch smith didn't directly grease the crown o ring. He grease the steam. Is that correctly done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctos Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Although just for lawyers it does have an a bit of common sence as we are not talking about pure depth when talking about water resistance as that only deals with static pressure but when swimming we have to think about the dynamic pressures the watch will experience <br />For example if you slowly get in the pool and sink 10 m then you will experience 10m of pressure <br />But even as you swim on the surface and drag the watch through the water with every stroke you could exceed 10m of pressure depending on how you swim just think of the difference de between a gentle breast stroke and a fast front crawl The "dynamic pressure" thing is highly exaggerated. At most, you're adding 2m worth. You aren't physically capable of moving your arm fast enough to cause a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FxrAndy Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 As I was asking before. the watch smith didn't directly grease the crown o ring. He grease the steam. Is that correctly done No not really every seal should be removed cleaned and greased reinstalled and then checked The only one that I would not remove unless a problem is suspected is the crystal seal as they are hard to get to fit reps some times but on a gen during a service that should also be replaced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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