ceejay Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Josh is not trusted here (now I know why). So mods can't do much. But Mike on a bike helping me. Josh is a TD here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepan Posted March 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Josh is a TD here. Mike on a bike said opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtguk Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Sepan Ceejay is quite right, Josh is certainly one of our TD's unless of course you happen to have used one of his clone sites that seem to spring up from time to time doesn't seem to be the case here though, have you contacted Mike again since you last spoke to Josh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Guys I will contact him in regard but I do not see Perfect Clones on our list , did I miss something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
508-Fanatic Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 I from Ukraine I ordered couple of times from Silix and more expensive watches from River without any problems. Watch was 188$ shipped. I hope to receive my watch finally. Vladimir Putin stole your watch, it probably matched Bob Kraft's SuperBowl ring... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Guys I will contact him in regard but I do not see Perfect Clones on our list , did I miss something? Uhm, has he been removed from the TD or he never been in? I kind of remember him too, but I may be wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tframo Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I don't know if he was ever a td here but he is next door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Uhm, has he been removed from the TD or he never been in? I kind of remember him too, but I may be wrong... Never to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Thanks Mike. Surely my faulty memory then:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 http://www.rwgforum.net/forum/73-joshua/ Aren't we talking about this dealer? Why is he then listed here, if he's not trusted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Guys, Lets set the record straight. http://www.rwgforum.net/forum/73-joshua/ Josh of perfect clones (www.pf-818.com) was a trusted dealer here at RWG the last I checked. He does not seem to be active in updating his website, to be fair, but his section has not been removed either. However, there are several "perfect clones" sites that are NOT trusted dealers at all. So please guys, choose the correct "Josh" to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Fuuu... SO my memory wasn't fault!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Guys Jos Nana is here but to be honest did not know he was Perfect Clones just Jos Nana to me on other sites listed as Perfect Clones, whatever I will get in touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 OK guys have Josh talking on the email, we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 OK it seems that the package was signed for by Stepan's wife, not knowing the ropes she took a damaged empty package. It is noted on Stepan's paper work but it's a rep how does he go after it. Now Josh's position is signed for WTF it was empty do not accept, now he can not get money from post and technically it was signed for so he is off the hook. Now you can say doesn't matter same as customs getting and in my judgement you have grounds but the dealers have huge volume so they will replace seized or lost not signed for watches but if you sign for an item that is not there well they see it different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtguk Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Not sure how this can be addressed now then Mike, if the parcel is signed for that's it isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Sort of stuck here Sgt as you indicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracture Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Signed for or not, the post office included documents that the package was already empty when it arrived in the ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 OP, how much is your loss in terms of dollars? Sent from Mars using tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike on a bike Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Not a biggie Legend. Signed for or not, the post office included documents that the package was already empty when it arrived in the ukraine. Yes it was per docs and if not accepted we would be fine money refunded or new watch sent. Like I said never accept under these conditions and I'm sure Stepan would not have so a tough call for the dealer but policy is if you take it , it's yours................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracture Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 But there was nothing to take and the postal office documents prove that. It would be a different story without those documents. Eh well, I suppose there's a reason he's not a TD on other boards, besides the cartel stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitmic Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I understand Josh now. I also understand Stepan and his wife. She didn't now what was supposed to be inside and therefore didn't know what weight to be expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenTLe Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Auch... Seeing the whole situation I believe any other TD would have behaved the same as Josh. And lesson learned (in the hard way) for the op too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepan Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Yes, my wife signed the document knowing package is empty. This document actually says that package arrived in Ukraine damaged and empty. So our postal worker don't tried to trick her. Also Josh complaining that he can't return money from China EMS because my wife signed something. But he declared 25USD as price of "Toy watch" in postal documents so as I understand EMS can't return more than 25USD to him. I even offered to pay him this 25USD in return for a new watch. This proposition was simply ignored. I don't expect to receive my watch (from the very beginning of our conversation with Josh I saw that he don't want to solve this situation) I just want make this situation public so other members can judge if they want to deal with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepan Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Not a biggie Legend. Yes, not a biggie Legend (if you live and work in USA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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